Compute Unit Normal Vector to Surface: Difference b/w N & n

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The discussion revolves around computing the unit normal vector to a surface, specifically differentiating between the normal vector ##N## of a curve and the unit normal vector ##n##. The original poster presents a parametrization of a surface and seeks guidance on calculating the unit normal vector.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating the unit normal vector, including the use of cross products of tangent vectors and the normalization process. Questions arise about the relationship between the normal vector and the gradient, as well as the correctness of specific formulas presented.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the computation of the normal vector, with some participants providing guidance on using tangent vectors and cross products. There is acknowledgment of differing signs in the computed normal vectors, indicating ongoing exploration of the topic.

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Participants note that the context is differential geometry, and there is mention of a lack of access to a calculus text, which may influence the discussion and understanding of the concepts involved.

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I have seen different equations for computing the unit normal vector to a surface. What is the difference between the normal vector ##N## of a curve and ##n##. I have seen this formula for a unit normal vector: ##n = \frac{x_1 \times x_2}{|x_1 \times x_2|}##. Which is different from ##N##. For example,

Let ##f(u,v)=(u,v,h(u,v))## be a parametrization of the graph ##T_h## of ##h:\mathbb{R}^2\to \mathbb{R}##. Compute a unit normal vector to ##T_h##.

How can I compute this unit normal vector?
 
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Use the gradient of f(u,v) to determine N. Then divide N by its magnitude to get n. Check your calculus text for a discussion of the gradient and how it is related to the normal vector.
 
I don't have a calculus text. This class is differential geometry.

But will it just be ##n = \frac{x_u(u_0,v_0) \times x_v(u_0,v_0)}{||x_u(u_0,v_0) \times x_v(u_0,v_0)||}?##
 
That's correct. The tangent vectors of the coordinate lines are \partial_u \vec{x} and \partial_v \vec{x} if \vec{x}(u,v) is the parametrization of your surface. The surface normal vector is given by their cross product, and then you normalize it.

BTS: the surface-element vectors are
\mathrm{d}^2 \vec{F}=\mathrm{d} u \, \mathrm{d} v \; \partial_{u} \vec{x} \times \partial_{v} \vec{x}.

You can simplify this a bit for your case, where
\vec{x}=u \vec{e}_x + v \vec{e}_y + h(u,v) \vec{e}_z.
 
Thanks vanhees71.

I got my normal vector to be ##\frac{\langle f_x , f_y, -1 \rangle}{\sqrt{f_x^2+f_y^2+1}}.## Is that correct?
 
I get the opposite sign.
 
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