Compute Volume Integral of $\vec V = xe^{-r}\hat i$: What is 'r'?

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The discussion revolves around computing the volume integral of the vector function \(\vec V = xe^{-r}\hat i\), where 'r' is defined as the distance from the origin. Participants are exploring how to evaluate the divergence and the implications for the volume integral.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of 'r' and its substitution into the vector expression. There are inquiries about the divergence of the vector and the choice of coordinate system for integration. Some participants express uncertainty about the surface integral and the area element.

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Several participants have provided insights on the divergence and the use of spherical coordinates for integration. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the divergence theorem and the behavior of the vector field at infinity. No explicit consensus has been reached regarding the integration approach.

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Participants are considering the integral over all space and discussing the challenges associated with volume integration versus surface integration. There is mention of the vector field's behavior at infinity, which may influence the evaluation of the integral.

Reshma
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I have this vector function:
\vec V = xe^{-r}\hat i

I have to obtain the volume integral:
I = \int(\vec \nabla \cdot \vec V)d^3x

What is that 'r' and how do I compute the volume integral?
 
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r is the distance from the origin: You start by evaluating the divergence of the vector. Offhand, I would recommend using spherical coordinates after evaluating the divergence.
 
Thanks, Tide!
So r = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2 + z^2}. I have to substitute this in the original vector expression right?
 
I would say so.
 
Reshma said:
I have this vector function:
\vec V = xe^{-r}\hat i

I have to obtain the volume integral:
I = \int(\vec \nabla \cdot \vec V)d^3x

What is that 'r' and how do I compute the volume integral?
I assume the integral is over all space.
If you know the divergence theorem, you can use it to show that the integral=0.
 
Meir Achuz said:
I assume the integral is over all space.
If you know the divergence theorem, you can use it to show that the integral=0.
Sorry, took me a while to get back to this problem.
Yes, the integral is over all space.
The divergence comes out to be:
\vec \nabla \cdot \vec v = \frac{-x^2 e^{-r}}{r} + e^{-r}
I have to integrate this over a sphere of radius R. The volume integration seems too cumbersome. However, if I consider the surface integral, how do I choose the area element d\vec a?
 
A typical choice for the surface of integration would be a spherical shell of radius R in the limit as R goes to infinity (since the shell must include all space). You should be able to convince yourself that the surface integral is zero without actually calculating it.
 
I am sorry, I don't get it :frown: . Suppose I take the surface integral as S.
S = \int \vec V \cdot d\vec a
As you explained, the area element for the shell would be 4\pi r^2 dr. This means, I have to convert \vec V into spherical coordinates, right?
 
Note that your vector field vanishes when evaluated at infinity, so does its flux thrugh the closed surface at infinity...

Daniel.
 
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Ok, so that means, e-r vanishes with r tends to infinity?
 
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Of course it does. As Tide said, there's no need to use Gauss's formula if u need to calculate it explicitely. Do the divergence first, then switch to spherical coordinates and then do the integral.

Daniel.
 

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