Computing limits - logs vs powers

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The problem involves finding the limit of the expression \(\frac{\log (x^{2} + e^{2x})}{x + 3}\) as \(x\) approaches infinity, within the context of comparing logarithmic and exponential growth rates.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the idea that "powers beat logs" and question whether this can be applied universally. They explore the dominance of \(e^{2x}\) in the numerator and consider using the sandwich theorem for bounding the expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is progressing with participants examining the relationship between \(x^2\) and \(e^{2x}\). Some guidance has been offered regarding bounding the expression, and there is an ongoing exploration of limits without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are considering the behavior of the functions involved as \(x\) approaches infinity and are questioning assumptions about growth rates and limits.

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Homework Statement



\frac{log (x^{2} + e^{2x})}{x + 3} find the limit as x_> infinty

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powers beat logs

The Attempt at a Solution



going by the powers beat logs idea - simply, the limit as n-> infinity is 0.

is this correct? can you simply say that powers beat logs always?
 
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No it's not that simple. Intuitively e^2x is going to dominate the bracket in the numerator and log(e^2x) can be easily simplified. Can you sandwich x^2+e^2x between multiples of e^2x (at least for large x)? Try the sandwich theorem.
 
ok - it will go to 2 then?

\frac{log (e^{2x})}{x + 3} \leq \frac{log (x^{2} + e^{2x})}{x + 3}<br /> \leq ?
\frac{log (e^{2x})}{x + 3} = \frac{2x}{x + 3} which tends to 2 as x tends to infinity is this correct - what should i use for thew upper bound?
 
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Fine so far. How would you compare x^2 and e^2x? (at least for large x).
 
e^2x is considerably larger than x^2 ?

if x^2 divereges - so must e^2x?

cant say I am 100% sure what your ginting towards.
 
Sorry if I'm being too vague.

x^2<e^2x so x^2+e^2x<2e^2x which gives you another useful bound :)
 
brilliant! - thanks

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