Concept of wavefunction and particle within Quantum Field Theory

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The discussion revolves around the concept of ket-states in Quantum Field Theory (QFT), particularly in relation to field operators and the creation of particles. Participants explore the implications of solving equations for field operators rather than wavefunctions, the nature of probability amplitudes, and the challenges of defining particle properties in QFT.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the accuracy of understanding ket-states as probability amplitudes and suggests that solving for the field operator rather than the wavefunction seems strange.
  • Another participant clarifies that a ket is not a probability amplitude and explains the necessity of measuring observables to obtain probability amplitudes.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of creating particles with definite momentum, noting that this leads to uncertainty in position.
  • Some participants express appreciation for a referenced paper, indicating its usefulness in understanding the topic.
  • One participant reflects on the complexity of local gauge symmetries and suggests that existing literature may contain myths that need resolution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of ket-states and the implications of field operators in QFT. There is no consensus on the clarity of existing literature or the best approach to understanding these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenges of defining particle properties in relativistic QFT and the complexities involved in local gauge symmetries. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration and clarification of these topics.

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I am struggling to properly understand this two concepts.
-1st: Could someone give me some insight on what a ket-state refers to when dealing with a field? To my understand it tells us the probability amplitude of having each excitation at any spacetime point, but I don't know if this is accurate. Also, we solve the free field equation not for this wavefunction but for the field itself. The latter sounds rather strange to me, since the field is indeed an operator. To me it looks as if we solved the Schrödinger equation not for the wavefunction but for the operator X, which is just an observable.

Once you solve the equation for a free field you see that applying the creation operator (p) to a ket-state creates a particle with momentum p.
-2nd: As far as I know the only thing we know is that applying the creation operation increases the momentum of the system by a quantity p. It is fair then to think that this operation is analogous to creating a particle, but what do we know about this particle? For instance, where do we have created it?
 
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A ket ##|\psi\rangle## is not a probability amplitude of anything. To get a probability amplitude you must consider a quantity of the form ##\langle a|\psi\rangle##, which is the probability amplitude that the measurement of observable ##A## will give the value ##a##. The observable ##A## may be almost anything you like, e.g. energy, momentum, electric field at a point, or particle position (in relativistic QFT the particle position is somewhat tricky and requires additional clarifications).

The fact that we solve the equation for the field operator ##\phi({\bf x},t)## just means that we work in the Heisenberg picture. In nonrelativistic QM it is analogous to solving the harmonic oscillator for the position operator as ##x(t)=ae^{-i\omega t} +a^{\dagger}e^{i\omega t}##. Alternatively, in QFT one can also work in the Schrödinger picture in which the field operator ##\phi({\bf x})## does not depend on ##t##, but it is rarely used in practice.

If you create particle with a definite momentum, then you cannot know its position. There is an operator that creates a particle at definite position (as I said it's tricky in relativistic QFT, but it's not problem at all in nonrelativistic QFT used e.g. in condensed matter physics), but in this case you know nothing about its momentum.

For more details see also my https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0609163 Secs. 8 and 9.
 
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Many thanks for your answer, it helped me a lot! Also I checked your paper and found it really interesting.
 
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Demystifier said:
A ket ##|\psi\rangle## is not a probability amplitude of anything. To get a probability amplitude you must consider a quantity of the form ##\langle a|\psi\rangle##, which is the probability amplitude that the measurement of observable ##A## will give the value ##a##. The observable ##A## may be almost anything you like, e.g. energy, momentum, electric field at a point, or particle position (in relativistic QFT the particle position is somewhat tricky and requires additional clarifications).

The fact that we solve the equation for the field operator ##\phi({\bf x},t)## just means that we work in the Heisenberg picture. In nonrelativistic QM it is analogous to solving the harmonic oscillator for the position operator as ##x(t)=ae^{-i\omega t} +a^{\dagger}e^{i\omega t}##. Alternatively, in QFT one can also work in the Schrödinger picture in which the field operator ##\phi({\bf x})## does not depend on ##t##, but it is rarely used in practice.

If you create particle with a definite momentum, then you cannot know its position. There is an operator that creates a particle at definite position (as I said it's tricky in relativistic QFT, but it's not problem at all in nonrelativistic QFT used e.g. in condensed matter physics), but in this case you know nothing about its momentum.

For more details see also my https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0609163 Secs. 8 and 9.
Nice paper. Thank you for sharing.
 
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CuriousLearner8 said:
Nice paper. Thank you for sharing.
It is indeed a nice paper. I really like it. That's why he is the Demystifier!
 
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gentzen said:
It is indeed a nice paper. I really like it. That's why he is the Demystifier!
Usually, although he's currently mystifying us with his free quark at rest!
 
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PeroK said:
Usually, although he's currently mystifying us with his free quark at rest!
There is no demystification without prior mystification. I just want to understand this stuff better and I feel that the currently existing literature does not explain this stuff clearly. I am not (yet) in a phase to demystify this stuff, I'm just trying to think of it from different angles. Eventually I hope that I will be able to write something about it in a demystifying way, but first I have to look at it from different angles, including the wrong ones.
 
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PeroK said:
Usually, although he's currently mystifying us with his free quark at rest!
But here he makes us think about very subtle issues with local gauge symmetries, and I think there are many myths in the standard literature (and not only textbooks!) which have to be resolved!
 
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