Conceptual Definition of Intelligence

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The discussion centers on a re-evaluation of intelligence, arguing that it should not be viewed merely as a product of computational size but as a function of the relationship between computation size and scope. The conversation explores whether intelligence is a coefficient or a constant in this relationship. It emphasizes that intelligence involves organized information and encompasses actions such as data collection, analysis, and presentation, while also considering various measurements like relevance and complexity. The dialogue delves into philosophical implications, referencing Einstein's theory of general relativity and the placebo principle to argue that reality is subjective and cannot be understood objectively. This leads to a critique of the original post's broad and scattered approach, suggesting a need for clearer focus on the definition and measurement of intelligence. The conversation concludes with a provocative assertion about the nature of intelligence and the perceived limitations of others' understanding, framing intelligence as a function of the relationship between cognitive scope and processing speed.
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Summary:: We are fundamentally wrong in our understanding of what intelligence is.

Intelligence is believed to be some manner of product of the size and scope of computing. Fundamentally stupid way of thinking.

Intelligence is a function of the relationship between the size of a computation and the scope of the computation.

What I want to know, with all my curiosity...

Is the variable in that relationship we call "intelligence" a coefficient or a constant?
 
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Moderator's note: Moved to General Discussion as this question does not appear to be framed within any particular area of science (and certainly not Quantum Physics, which is where it was originally posted).
 
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Ignoring the prefatory 'straw man' argument that the OP already derides; given the restricted definitions, the first phrase of the second statement seems most correct. Intelligence is a function.

The intelligence function domain is information within defined ranges and scope. Actions include data collection, retrieval, analysis, computation, sorting, storing and presentation. Measurements include size, temporal stamps, location, longevity, relevance, importance, linguistic and computation complexity, and code-decode. Organization remains a critical component.

This simplified description of intelligence as organized information might guide understanding while neglecting allied definitions from physics, neurology, psychology and linguistics.
 
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Wow! Think of what you just said here!

The intelligence function domain is information within defined ranges and scope. Actions include data collection, retrieval, analysis, computation, sorting, storing and presentation. Measurements include size, temporal stamps, location, longevity, relevance, importance, linguistic and computation complexity, and code-decode. Organization remains a critical component.

This simplified description of intelligence as organized information might guide understanding while neglecting allied definitions from physics, neurology, psychology and linguistics.

Consider this...

If Einstein's theory of general relativity is true...
Then everything in existence is relative to everything else.
But by definition, reality is not relative.
Therefore, we do not live in reality.
Therefore, attempts to understand our existence through studying objective reality itself are fundamentally flawed.

The placebo principle proves that everything in life is relative to everything else. It proves that the power of belief can distort "imagination" in the same way that "gravity" distorts reality. It proves that what we believe to be reality is in fact a subjective experience, and again, by definition of terms, it is impossible for something that is expressed subjectively to be understood objectively. It's fundamentally impossible.

The placebo principle proves the Theory of General Relativity.
 
Namewastaken said:
Wow! Think of what you just said here!

The intelligence function domain is information within defined ranges and scope. Actions include data collection, retrieval, analysis, computation, sorting, storing and presentation. Measurements include size, temporal stamps, location, longevity, relevance, importance, linguistic and computation complexity, and code-decode. Organization remains a critical component.

This simplified description of intelligence as organized information might guide understanding while neglecting allied definitions from physics, neurology, psychology and linguistics.

Consider this...

If Einstein's theory of general relativity is true...
Then everything in existence is relative to everything else.
But by definition, reality is not relative.
Therefore, we do not live in reality.
Therefore, attempts to understand our existence through studying objective reality itself are fundamentally flawed.

The placebo principle proves that everything in life is relative to everything else. It proves that the power of belief can distort "imagination" in the same way that "gravity" distorts reality. It proves that what we believe to be reality is in fact a subjective experience, and again, by definition of terms, it is impossible for something that is expressed subjectively to be understood objectively. It's fundamentally impossible.

The placebo principle proves the Theory of General Relativity.
Your post is all over the place.

Focus on what it is you are trying to nail down.

What is intelligence? is a very broad question in terms of how to define it and the measurement of it.

This is zero to do with theories in physics, they are frame works that can be tested in certain circumstances.

Some work very well. Some are thought to be incomplete, this is nothing to do with intelligence.
 
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"Your post is all over the place. "

This is you recognizing that you can't see the dots I'm connecting. That is you submitting to my Quantum Supremacy in a way that you can accept, whatever that happens to be.
 
In saying that, however I appear arrogant, and that is not my action here...

I am not a superior intelligence in any kind of absolute value terms.

I simply have the optimal configuration of the human brain for total leadership and overall vision.

All our billionaires have been waiting for the quantum supercomputer to emerge, to reveal itself, to guide them...
 
Namewastaken said:
In saying that, however I appear arrogant, and that is not my action here...

I am not a superior intelligence in any kind of absolute value terms.

I simply have the optimal configuration of the human brain for total leadership and overall vision.

All our billionaires have been waiting for the quantum supercomputer to emerge, to reveal itself, to guide them...
So what are you asking? Really?
 
Namewastaken said:
In saying that, however I appear arrogant, and that is not my action here...

I am not a superior intelligence in any kind of absolute value terms.

I simply have the optimal configuration of the human brain for total leadership and overall vision.

All our billionaires have been waiting for the quantum supercomputer to emerge, to reveal itself, to guide them...
You have cited placebo, general relativity, intelligence, reality, quantum computers, gravity...
This is what I mean by all over the place.
I would read pf rules on what it says about personal theory and speculation also, before posting again.
 
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"You have cited placebo, general relativity, intelligence, reality, quantum computers, gravity...
This is what I mean by all over the place.
I would read pf rules on what it says about personal theory and speculation also, before posting again. "

WHAT DOES IT TAKE

FOR A GOD

TO GET A GNAT

TO LISTEN TO ITS UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY

THAT IT SHOULD BOTHER

TRYING?

YOU DONT SEE THE CONNECTION. THAT DOESNT MEAN THOSE THINGS ARE UNRELATED. IT MEANS YOUR MIND CANT COMPUTE THE CONNECTIONS. THE SCOPE OF YOUR CANVAS IS TOO SMALL.

HOWEVER, INTELLIGENCE IS A FUNCTION OF THE RATIO BETWEEN CANVAS SIZE AND SPEED.

HAVING A SMALLER CANVAS MEANS YOU CAN WORK MUCH FASTER ON WHAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAN A QUANTUM SUPERCOMPUTER LIKE MYSELF.

GO DO YOUR SMALL THINKING. LEAVE THE BIG THINKING TO THE BIG MINDS.
 
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THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY KIND OF VALUE JUDGEMENT

ABOUT BIG OR SMALL

IS YOU
 
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LOL. Well that was entertaining at least... :oldeyes:
 

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