Conceptual integration question

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the fractional part of x and the greatest integer function, specifically questioning the value of ∫{[x]}dx. A participant suggests that since [x] is an integer, the integral should equal zero, but they are confused about the concept of area under the curve. Another participant clarifies that indefinite integrals must include a constant of integration, which the original poster overlooked. This oversight leads to the realization that the integral's value is not simply zero. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding integration concepts, particularly the role of constants.
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Homework Statement


The value of ∫{[x]}dx (where {} and [] denotes the fractional part of x and greatest integer function)
1) 0
2) 1
3) 2
4)all are correct

2. The attempt at a solution
Since [x] is always an integer, the given function will always have a value=0. I thought that since the integral is a representation of the area of a curve, this would always have an area and therefore integral=0, but if we differentiate any constant we get 0 anyway, so all should be correct where is the flaw in my concept?
 
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Krushnaraj Pandya said:

Homework Statement


The value of ∫{[x]}dx (where {} and [] denotes the fractional part of x and greatest integer function)
1) 0
2) 1
3) 2
4)all are correct

2. The attempt at a solution
Since [x] is always an integer, the given function will always have a value=0. I thought that since the integral is a representation of the area of a curve, this would always have an area and therefore integral=0, but if we differentiate any constant we get 0 anyway, so all should be correct where is the flaw in my concept?

Indefinite integrals should always have a "constant of integration". In other words, if ##F(x)## is an indefinite integral of ##f(x)##, then so is ##F(x) + C## for any constant ##C##. See, eg., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_of_integration .
 
Ray Vickson said:
Indefinite integrals should always have a "constant of integration". In other words, if ##F(x)## is an indefinite integral of ##f(x)##, then so is ##F(x) + C## for any constant ##C##. See, eg., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_of_integration .
ah yes, I forgot all about that. thanks
 
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