Conformal invariance / reparametrization invariance

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of conformal invariance and reparametrization invariance in the context of symmetries in theoretical physics, particularly focusing on the Polyakov action. Participants explore the definitions, implications, and relationships between these types of symmetries, as well as the challenges in verifying conformal invariance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether reparametrization invariance implies conformal symmetry, noting the lack of constraints in the former compared to the latter.
  • Another participant clarifies that a mapping is conformal if it preserves angles, which requires the satisfaction of the Cauchy-Riemann equations.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the appearance of conformal symmetries arises from gauge fixing of the worldsheet metric, which leads to residual symmetries that correspond to conformal symmetries.
  • A participant describes their struggle with checking conformal invariance in the Polyakov action, detailing their computations and the emergence of an unexpected term that complicates the verification.
  • One participant realizes that they had overlooked the orientation-preserving nature of conformal transformations with respect to a Minkowski metric, which alters the equations involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between reparametrization and conformal invariance, with no consensus reached on whether one implies the other. Additionally, there is ongoing debate regarding the verification of conformal invariance in the context of the Polyakov action, with participants providing various insights and corrections to each other's claims.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the implications of different metrics (Euclidean vs. Minkowski) on the definitions of conformal and reparametrization invariance. There are unresolved mathematical steps in the verification process of conformal invariance, particularly concerning the unexpected term that arises in the calculations.

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Hi! I have little questions about symmetries. I begin in the field, so...

First about conformal symmetry. As I studied, in 2-d, a transformation (\tau, \sigma) \to (\tau', \sigma') changing the metric by a multiplicative factor implies that the transformation (\tau, \sigma) \to (\tau', \sigma') satisfies Cauchy-Riemann equations : \partial_\tau \tau' (\tau, \sigma) = \partial_\sigma \sigma'(\tau, \sigma) and \partial_\sigma \tau' (\tau, \sigma) = - \partial_\tau \sigma'(\tau, \sigma). Under such a transformation (\tau, \sigma) \to (\tau', \sigma'), one can verify that the Polyakov action remains unchanged and we say the action is conformally invariant. (Correct?)

What is not clear to me is the following. We also have reparametrization invariance. But I would be tempted to say that reparametrization implies conformal symmetry since it seems to be more general: we still start from a transformation (\tau, \sigma) \to (\tau', \sigma'), but without the constraints \partial_\tau \tau' (\tau, \sigma) = \partial_\sigma \sigma'(\tau, \sigma). I'm wrong somewhere, but I can't figure out where.

Thanks for your help.

(I have created a new topic for clarity)
 
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A mapping is said to be conformal if it locally preserves angles. So the derivatives of the new parameters must be orthogonal and of the same length. It must be orthogonal since the derivatives of the old parameters are naturally orthogonal ( (1,0), (0,1) ), and of the same length because every vector need to preserves angles. This is only ensured when the Cauchy-Riemann equations are satisfied.

If you have an invariance, but the Cauchy-Riemann equations for your transformation are not satisfied, it's not a conformal symmetry.
 
You are right, but I think the appearance of conformal symmetries comes because of one subtlety.
The gauge fixing of the worldsheet metric to an euclidean metric using reparametrization and weyl symmetries leaves behind some more residual symmetries (which are roughly transformation of one being canceled by the other) which actually turns out to be the conformal symmetries of the worldsheet metric.
So roughly, conformal symmetry "=" reparametrization "-" weyl symmetry
 
Thanks for the answers, this is more clear. But...

I run into problem checking conformal invariance. I consider the Polyakov action with gauge fixing h=\text{diag}(1,-1). We obtain (up to a constant factor)

S_P=\int d\tau d\sigma \left( \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau} <br /> \frac{\partial X_\mu}{\partial \tau} - \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma} <br /> \frac{\partial X_\mu}{\partial \sigma} \right)

where X^\mu are the coordinate functions of the worldsheet.

Now, if we consider a conformal transformation, i.e. a map (\tau, \sigma) \mapsto (\tau&#039;, \sigma&#039;) satisfying \partial_\tau \tau&#039; = \partial_\sigma \sigma&#039; and \partial_\sigma \tau&#039; = - \partial_\tau \sigma&#039;,

we obtain

d\tau&#039; d\sigma&#039; = \left( \frac{\partial \tau&#039;}{\partial \tau} <br /> \frac{\partial \sigma&#039;}{\partial \sigma} - \frac{\partial \tau&#039;}{\partial \sigma} <br /> \frac{\partial \sigma&#039;}{\partial \tau} \right) d\tau d\sigma = \Big\lbrack \left(\frac{\partial \tau&#039;}{\partial\tau}\right)^2 - \left(\frac{\partial \tau&#039;}{\partial\sigma}\right)^2 \Big\rbrack d\tau d\sigma

Now the action becomes

S_P = \int d\tau d\sigma \Big\lbrack \left( \frac{\partial X^\mu }{\partial \tau&#039;}\frac{\partial \tau&#039; }{\partial \tau} + \frac{\partial X^\mu }{\partial \sigma&#039;}\frac{\partial \sigma&#039; }{\partial \tau} \right) \left( \frac{\partial X_\mu }{\partial \tau&#039;}\frac{\partial \tau&#039; }{\partial \tau} + \frac{\partial X_\mu }{\partial \sigma&#039;}\frac{\partial \sigma&#039; }{\partial \tau} \right) - \left( \frac{\partial X^\mu }{\partial \tau&#039;}\frac{\partial \tau&#039; }{\partial \sigma} + \frac{\partial X^\mu }{\partial \sigma&#039;}\frac{\partial \sigma&#039; }{\partial \sigma} \right) \left( \frac{\partial X_\mu }{\partial \tau&#039;}\frac{\partial \tau&#039; }{\partial \sigma} + \frac{\partial X_\mu }{\partial \sigma&#039;}\frac{\partial \sigma&#039; }{\partial \sigma} \right) \Big\rbrack

and after some computations, I almost get it right. I obtain :

S_P = A + B

with

A = \int d\tau d\sigma \left( \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau&#039;} <br /> \frac{\partial X_\mu}{\partial \tau&#039;} - \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \sigma&#039;} <br /> \frac{\partial X_\mu}{\partial \sigma&#039;} \right) \Big\lbrack \left(\frac{\partial \tau&#039;}{\partial\tau}\right)^2 - \left(\frac{\partial \tau&#039;}{\partial\sigma}\right)^2 \Big\rbrack = S&#039;_P

and unfortunately a extra non-vanishing term

B= 4 \int d\tau d\sigma \frac{\partial \tau&#039;}{\partial \tau} \frac{\partial \sigma&#039;}{\partial \tau} \frac{\partial X^\mu}{\partial \tau&#039;} \frac{\partial X_\mu}{\partial \sigma&#039;}

Any idea to get rid off this B term? I have double checked, triple checked my computations, it's still there. I would really appreciate some help, I thought it would be an easy check... and I'm stuck on this for a while now.
 
I think I get it. I forgot that we here consider (orientation preserving) conformal transformations with respect to a Minkowsky metric, which leads to the equations \partial_\tau \tau&#039; = \partial_\sigma \sigma&#039; and \partial_\sigma \tau&#039; = \partial_\tau \sigma&#039; for a metric h=diag(1,-1). Cauchy-Riemann equations are obtained for the euclidean metric...
 

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