Confused about tuition and stipends for science Masters/PhD programs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the financial aspects of graduate programs in science, specifically concerning tuition and stipends for Master's and PhD programs in fields such as physics, engineering, materials science, chemistry, and molecular biology. Participants explore whether tuition is waived for students receiving stipends and the implications of funding structures at various universities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that many universities offer stipends in the range of $20,000 - $30,000 for research-based programs.
  • One participant asserts that tuition is waived, while another clarifies that this can vary by university.
  • It is mentioned that at some public universities, students may pay reduced tuition as residents, and housing may be offered at subsidized rates.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of funding formulas that determine how stipends and tuition waivers are allocated among different departments and roles.
  • Participants discuss the distinction between teaching assistants (TAs) and research assistants (RAs), noting that their funding sources and tuition coverage can differ significantly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the specifics of tuition waivers and stipends, as participants present differing views based on their experiences at various institutions. Some agree that tuition is often waived, while others highlight exceptions and variations in funding structures.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the details of tuition waivers and stipends, emphasizing that these can depend on institutional policies and specific funding arrangements. The discussion reflects a lack of clarity on who ultimately covers tuition costs in cases of waivers.

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So from looking at a lot of universities' graduate programs for science Masters and PhD's (physics, engineering, materials science, chemistry, molecular biology, etc), a lot seem to offer pretty good stipends (in the $20,000 - $30,000 range) if you enter a research-based program and do research for the school.

The thing is, is there still tuition?

It might be a dumb question, but it would just seem odd to me if they gave you a lot of money but it costs you just as much to attend; it would just cancel out.
 
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tuition is waived.
 
chill_factor said:
tuition is waived.

It depends on the university. For some public universities, you pay tuition, but you are counted as a resident, so the tuition isn't that bad. The other big thing that the university often does is provide housing at extremely subsidized rates.

It might be a dumb question, but it would just seem odd to me if they gave you a lot of money but it costs you just as much to attend; it would just cancel out.

For science Ph.D.'s it works out so that you can eek out a decent existence.

The other thing, it used to seem weird to me to have people pay you money to take some of it back, but it turns out that there are some extremely complicated formulas that work out "who gets what" and a lot of this is to make things "fit the formula." I think it's quite educational to look at the stream of numbers and see who gets what.
 
CYP450 said:
So from looking at a lot of universities' graduate programs for science Masters and PhD's (physics, engineering, materials science, chemistry, molecular biology, etc), a lot seem to offer pretty good stipends (in the $20,000 - $30,000 range) if you enter a research-based program and do research for the school.

The thing is, is there still tuition?

It might be a dumb question, but it would just seem odd to me if they gave you a lot of money but it costs you just as much to attend; it would just cancel out.

Different institutions have different details, but in general a graduate student can (aside from outside employment) get paid for being a teaching assistant or a research assistant. You do not do research 'for the school'- you do research for a the PI who is paying you.

Teaching assistants are paid through the Department, and in addition to a possible tuition waiver, there is a stipend. Research assistants are paid through the PI and can cover tuition and stipend. MS students get paid less than PhD students- the numbers you put up are probably for PhD students.

Who pays the tuition, in the case of a waiver, is where things can get interesting- there are a lot of people who get the tuition money- Department, Dean, Provost, and the details depend on what those offices agree on. Here, TA tuition would be paid through the Department, and our TAs have to pay tuition, AFAIK. RA tuition is covered by the Graduate college when I pay a stipend, so my RAs that I pay a stipend for also have their tuition covered. I also have RAs that are paid hourly (undergrads, for example), and their tuition is not waived.
 

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