Chemistry-Based Research Program or more Math/CS Courses?

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process of a freshman physics major regarding whether to remain in a biology/chemistry-based research program or to pursue proof-based math and computer science courses. The scope includes considerations of academic paths, research opportunities, and personal interests in the context of a physics degree.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) is weighing the benefits of a research program that requires taking chemistry courses against the desire to take math and CS courses.
  • Some participants suggest that the decision should reflect what the OP wants their CV or resume to convey about their academic and professional identity.
  • There is confusion regarding the program's requirements, specifically the number of chemistry classes needed and the classification of CS as a science.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of pursuing biophysics without a solid chemistry foundation.

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Participants express differing views on the importance of chemistry versus math/CS courses, and there is no consensus on the best path forward for the OP. Confusion exists regarding the program's structure and requirements.

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The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the program's requirements, including the prerequisite structure for chemistry courses and the classification of CS in relation to the sciences.

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To sum up the current biggest stress of my life into a question: do you recommend that I stay in a biology/chemistry-based research program or pursue proof-based math courses?

I am a freshman physics major at a good research university. I was invited into a very difficult program for "future research scientists" that would require me to take 2 semesters of general chemistry and organic chemistry respectively. The program has mostly biochemistry and chemistry majors (with few physics majors like me invited and sprinkled in there) and has a biochemistry/chemistry focus (despite the fact that I was invited as a physics major). The benefits of the program are a $10,000 research stipend to stay on campus and do research for the summers before my junior and senior years. Additionally, I am required to double-major in an additional science through completing this program and/or obtaining a master's degree in a natural science. (I would try to double major physics with biophysics to avoid taking too many chem courses. Still, I would have to take organic chem next year.) If I stay in this program and double-major in two natural sciences, I will likely not have time to take any CS courses, upper-level math courses, or any other courses that interest me outside of the natural sciences.

Another class I am taking now and am trying to balance with this program and my other classes is a proof-based calculus course. This course is not required for my major (I could just take standard multi-variable calc), but I hear that introducing yourself to proof-based math early will prepare you for upper-level math courses. This math course teaches about the fundamentals of calculus and then multi-variable calculus through proofs but is very time consuming. I find it cool, but I don't find barely having any free time with both this program and this course cool.

With that being said, would a double-major in natural sciences help me if I were to pursue physics in grad school more than being able to take math/CS courses would? And sure, the research stipend is appealing, but I can find plenty of other options for research outside of the program at my school. I don't think I can do both; there are only 24 hours in a day. I also need to find time for my work-study program and for free time.

TL;DR: Physics + double major in natural sciences (and have to take more chem than CS/upper-math) along with research stipend for 2 summers of research or Physics + Minor or double major in either CS/math but miss out on a research stipend?
 
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I think no one has responded because they don't want to be the reason why you pick one or the other, or because they don't know how to help you make this decision. I don't mind if I am the reason, but that's just me :). Surely no one is going to push you into something you don't want to do, and I won't either. If you don't want to do it, don't.

I always go back to, what do you want your CV or resume to say? This is me, I am a what?

Hope this helps.
 
I'm very confused. The program only requires you to take two chemistry classes? And CS doesn't count as a science? Also, biophysics might be tough without a decent chemistry background.
 
TeethWhitener said:
I'm very confused. The program only requires you to take two chemistry classes? And CS doesn't count as a science? Also, biophysics might be tough without a decent chemistry background.
As some clarification, General Chemistry is two semesters, and Organic Chemistry is two semesters. General Chemistry is a prerequisite for Organic Chemistry. These are to be taken over a two-year period.
 

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