Confused about wavefunctions and kets

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding the concepts of wavefunctions and kets in quantum mechanics. The wavefunction ψ(r) represents the probability amplitude in position space, while the ket |ψ⟩ is a vector in an abstract Hilbert space, with the two being related but not identical. When transitioning to momentum space, the ket remains the same, but its representation changes, indicating different bases for measurement. In bound systems like the infinite square well, momentum is quantized, while position remains continuous until measured, at which point the wavefunction collapses. The key takeaway is that the wavefunction provides a probabilistic description of finding a particle in a specific state, while the ket represents the state itself in a broader mathematical framework.
  • #31
atyy said:
Roughly, a ket can be represented as a column vector. So let's say there are only 2 possible positions. Also let us choose to represent the ket |x=1> as the column vector [1 0]T, and the ket |x=2> as the column vector [0 1]T, ie. we choose as basis vectors states of definite position. An arbitary ket is then |ψ>=ψ(1)|x=1>+ψ(2)|x=2>, or equivalently as the wavefunction [ψ(1) ψ(2)]T, or equivalently the wavefunction ψ(x) where x is an index that runs from 1 to 2.

However, x actually is not discrete with only 2 values, it runs continuously. So if we use basis vectors with a definite position, then the ket |ψ> is an infinite dimensional column vector. An element of this column vector ψ(x) is the probability amplitude that a particle will be found at location x.

The above is rigourously incorrect, because there are sonme subtleties for infinite dimensional spaces, but the idea is roughly ok. Take a look at the explanations in http://physics.mq.edu.au/~jcresser/Phys304/Handouts/QuantumPhysicsNotes.pdf (chapters 8-10).


Thanks. You said an element of the column vector ψ(x). Did you mean an element of the ket |ψ> ? But you then relate it to location x. I thought kets are independent of basis ? So why would it be location x and not momentum p or some other basis ?
 
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  • #32
dyn said:
Thanks. You said an element of the column vector ψ(x). Did you mean an element of the ket |ψ> ?

Before you represent a ket as a column vector, you must always choose a basis. In the above the choice of basis means we choose |x=1> to be the column vector [1 0]T, and |x=2> to be the column vector [0 1]T.

Then the ket |ψ> will be the column vector which can be written [ψ(1) ψ(2)]T, or for short ψ(x) which is an element of the column vector [ψ(1) ψ(2)]T.

dyn said:
But you then relate it to location x. I thought kets are independent of basis ? So why would it be location x and not momentum p or some other basis ?

Yes, because I chose at the start a basis in which a state with a definite position |x=1> is the column vector [1 0]T, and the state with definite position |x=2> is the column vector [0 1]T. This is why the column vector [ψ(1) ψ(2)]T is also written as [ψ(x=1) ψ(x=2)]T, or for short ψ(x) is an element of that column vector.

If at the start I had chosen to represent the state of definite momentum as the basis, eg. choose |p=1> as the column vector [1 0]T, then the elements of the column vector representing the ket |ψ> would be ψ(p).
 
  • #33
Some things are clearer now but as for the rest ; my head is spinning more and more. I just want to thank everyone who has persevered with me on this thread.
 

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