Confusing on permeability and relative permeability

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The discussion clarifies the relationship between magnetic fields, specifically the equations governing the magnetic field \(\vec{B}\) and the magnetizing field \(\vec{H}\). The equation \(\vec{B} = \mu_0\vec{H}\) is foundational, with relative permeability \(\mu_r\) defined as \(\mu_r = \frac{\mu}{\mu_0}\), indicating the material's ability to affect the magnetic field compared to free space. The use of \(\vec{H}\) is emphasized as it is more controllable in practical applications, especially in linear media where \(\vec{B} = \mu\vec{H}\) holds true. The discussion also highlights the role of magnetic susceptibility \(\chi_m\) in determining magnetization, reinforcing the importance of understanding these concepts in electromagnetism.

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In some textbook of fundamental electromagnetism, the relation between magnetic field \vec{B} and so called magnetizing field \vec{H} is

\vec{B} = \mu_0\vec{H}

But later on, they introduce a so called relative permeability

\mu_r = \frac{\mu}{\mu_0}

I might be wrong but my understanding of this definition is relative permeability is used to tell the 'capability to affect the field' of the object while comparing to something in free space? So \mu is actually the total and absolute permeability of that object?

And I am quite confusing with \vec{H} here. Now then we have the \vec{B} to describe the magnetic field, why we need another field variable? Someone said it may related to magnetization. But if there is a magnetization so

\vec{B} = \mu_0(\vec{H} + \vec{M}) = \mu_0\vec{H}

why we still have to use H ?

My last question is: if a material with relative permeability \mu_r=\mu / \mu_0 is considered, the relation between B and H will modified to

\vec{B} = \mu_r\vec{H}

or

\vec{B}=\mu\vec{H}

or

unchanged?

Thanks
 
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Often, H is much more easily controlled, so H is much more useful both for practical purposes and in calculations. In fact, quite often H is introduced before B.

H behaves much more nicely in the presence of matter, where the magnetization is not in general zero. It's a similar relationship between E and D, but in practice it is E that is more easily controlled.

In linear media, B = μH. The relative permeability μr is dimensionless, so the dimensions wouldn't work out if you used that instead.

The magnetic susceptibility χm (which is dimensionless) determines the magnetization in (linear) matter: M = χmH. Thus B = μ0(H + M) = μ0(1 + χm)H = μH, where μ is defined to be μ0(1 + χm). And then μr = μ / μ0 = 1 + χm.
 
Thank you so much. In your reply, you said: In linear media, B = μH ... I wonder if μ here is the total permeability? That is, μ=μr0 ?

adriank said:
Often, H is much more easily controlled, so H is much more useful both for practical purposes and in calculations. In fact, quite often H is introduced before B.

H behaves much more nicely in the presence of matter, where the magnetization is not in general zero. It's a similar relationship between E and D, but in practice it is E that is more easily controlled.

In linear media, B = μH. The relative permeability μr is dimensionless, so the dimensions wouldn't work out if you used that instead.

The magnetic susceptibility χm (which is dimensionless) determines the magnetization in (linear) matter: M = χmH. Thus B = μ0(H + M) = μ0(1 + χm)H = μH, where μ is defined to be μ0(1 + χm). And then μr = μ / μ0 = 1 + χm.
 
By μ I mean exactly μ, the permeability of the material.
 

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