Confusion about tension and pulleys

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The discussion clarifies the relationship between tension in a rope and the rotation of a pulley, particularly in the context of torque. It establishes that static friction between the rope and the pulley is essential for the pulley to turn, as it allows the tension forces to exert torques at different points on the pulley. When the pulley is massless, the tension remains constant throughout the rope. However, if the pulley has a moment of inertia, the tensions must differ to produce angular acceleration, described by the equation α = R(Tb - Ta) / I.

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I am a little confused about the concept of tension as it relates to pulleys. I am studying torque right now, and it says in the textbook that the tension in the rope around a pulley produces a torque that causes the pulley to turn. I don't fully understand this. I thought that tension was a pair of opposing forces that acted throughout the rope at each point in the rope. However, I don't understand how the same force would cause the pulley to turn. Since there is no friction between the rope and pulley, I don't understand why the pulley would turn in the first place.

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hgfhh123 said:

Homework Statement



I am a little confused about the concept of tension as it relates to pulleys. I am studying torque right now, and it says in the textbook that the tension in the rope around a pulley produces a torque that causes the pulley to turn. I don't fully understand this. I thought that tension was a pair of opposing forces that acted throughout the rope at each point in the rope. However, I don't understand how the same force would cause the pulley to turn. Since there is no friction between the rope and pulley, I don't understand why the pulley would turn in the first place.


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The Attempt at a Solution


There is static friction between the rope and pulley. That makes the pulley move together with the rope. The two pieces of the rope exert torques RTa and RTb on the pulley at points A and B. (R is the radius of the pulley). If the pulley is massless zero torque is enough to rotate it with a certain angular acceleration, so the tension is the same in both pieces of the rope. If the pulley has got I moment of inertia, the tensions Ta and Tb must be different to rotate the pulley with angular acceleration α: α=R(Tb-Ta)/I.


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Its the frictional force between the string and pulley that cause the pulley to rotate when the string moves..
 

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