Confusion on the concept of point of rotation

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The discussion centers on the concept of the point of rotation in physics, particularly in relation to rolling objects. It emphasizes that the equation \(\Gamma = I \alpha\) is applicable for any chosen axis of rotation, including those outside the rotating body. The parallel axis theorem is highlighted as a method to calculate the moment of inertia (I) for different axes. The forum participants suggest that selecting the point of contact with the ground as the axis of rotation simplifies torque calculations by eliminating the unknown force of friction.

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  • Understanding of rotational dynamics and the equation \(\Gamma = I \alpha\)
  • Familiarity with the parallel axis theorem for moment of inertia calculations
  • Basic knowledge of rolling motion and forces involved, such as friction
  • Concept of torque and its relation to rotational motion
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  • Explore the effects of friction on rolling motion and its implications for torque
  • Investigate different axes of rotation and their impact on moment of inertia calculations
  • Learn about the dynamics of rolling objects and the forces acting at the point of contact
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I had a bit of confusion on the point of rotation of rolling bodies. When a body rolls, we apply the formula τ = Iα. But in order to compute the moment of inertia we need to know the point of rotation of the object. If the object rolls about it's bottom most point then we need to add a extra {MR}^{2} for most rolling bodies. So please explain how to determine the point of rotation for rolling bodies.
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##\Gamma = I \alpha ## will hold true for any axis of rotation you choose, even one that isn’t inside the rotating body. The inertia I can be constructed for whichever axis you choose. In fact, you can calculate I for the center of the cylinder and then use that to find I about some other axis by the parallel axis theorem.

So the question is which axis should you choose for evaluating the motion? For a rolling object there is a force of constraint. The rolling friction will be whatever magnitude force is required to prevent slipping. Since you don’t know how big the force of friction might be, putting the axis of rotation at the point of contact with the road will get that unknown out of your torque calculations.
 
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