Confusion on the concept of point of rotation

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the point of rotation in the context of rotational motion and dynamics, particularly focusing on the moment of inertia and its relation to different axes of rotation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the specific concept of the point of rotation and its implications for calculating moment of inertia. Some explore the relationship between the axis of rotation and the forces involved in rolling motion.

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Some participants have offered links to external resources that may provide additional context. There is an ongoing exploration of which axis to choose for evaluating motion, particularly in relation to rolling objects and the forces at play.

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Participants are considering the implications of choosing different axes of rotation and how this affects torque calculations, particularly in scenarios involving rolling without slipping.

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I had a bit of confusion on the point of rotation of rolling bodies. When a body rolls, we apply the formula τ = Iα. But in order to compute the moment of inertia we need to know the point of rotation of the object. If the object rolls about it's bottom most point then we need to add a extra {MR}^{2} for most rolling bodies. So please explain how to determine the point of rotation for rolling bodies.
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τ = Iα
--no explanation as conceptual error--
 
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##\Gamma = I \alpha ## will hold true for any axis of rotation you choose, even one that isn’t inside the rotating body. The inertia I can be constructed for whichever axis you choose. In fact, you can calculate I for the center of the cylinder and then use that to find I about some other axis by the parallel axis theorem.

So the question is which axis should you choose for evaluating the motion? For a rolling object there is a force of constraint. The rolling friction will be whatever magnitude force is required to prevent slipping. Since you don’t know how big the force of friction might be, putting the axis of rotation at the point of contact with the road will get that unknown out of your torque calculations.
 
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