Confusion regarding cos or sin

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The discussion centers on the confusion regarding the use of sine and cosine in resolving force components, specifically why Fy uses cosine and Fx uses sine. It emphasizes that the definitions depend on how the angle is defined in relation to the triangle formed by the force. The opposite side of the angle corresponds to sine, while the adjacent side corresponds to cosine. Participants suggest visualizing the force triangle correctly and applying the SOH CAH TOA mnemonic to clarify the relationships. Understanding these definitions and their application is crucial for solving related problems effectively.
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Homework Statement


I have the solution and everything, I'm just confused why they use cos for Fy and sin for Fx ...

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I've always known Fx=Fcos and Fy=Fsin .. but now I am getting to different problems and it confuses me

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I read many posts and answers such as "take sin as opposite to theta" but I can't understand... I will apreciate if you could easily put this into brain! check image for example , if you got videos that help please share i have an exam tomorroW
 

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It depends on the way you define the angle.

For the side that is opposite to the angle, you need the sine, for the side next to the angle you need the cosine. That's just the definition of the two (more precise: one possible definition). No logic behind it, just one of the few things you have to learn by heart.
 
mfb said:
It depends on the way you define the angle.

For the side that is opposite to the angle, you need the sine, for the side next to the angle you need the cosine. That's just the definition of the two (more precise: one possible definition). No logic behind it, just one of the few things you have to learn by heart.
can you explain your concept using the attached image pls?
 
joker2014 said:
can you explain your concept using the attached image pls?
This is the image you should memorize:

http://demo.activemath.org/ActiveMath2/LeAM_calculusPics/TrigFunctionsTriangle.png?lang=en​
 
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I know this and memorized this, even using SOH CAH TOA,, but I can't apply it to the problems I am getting now
 
joker2014 said:
I know this and memorized this, even using SOH CAH TOA,, but I can't apply it to the problems I am getting now
Well, why don't you take F1 in Prob. 2-145 and identify the parts of the force triangle? IOW, what are the components of F1 ?
 
well using the concept of "use sine for side opposite to angle" .. then Id say Fx=30sin30 and also Fy=30sin30 ... becausee I take the side and it turns out to be opposite to the angle... this is how I'd solve it and its wrong anyways
 
joker2014 said:
well using the concept of "use sine for side opposite to angle" .. then Id say Fx=30sin30 and also Fy=30sin30 ... becausee I take the side and it turns out to be opposite to the angle... this is how I'd solve it and its wrong anyways

I can't make out your justification here.

Clearly, the diagram for F1 shows that the angle is 30°. The hypotenuse of the triangle is the line of action with the arrow at the end. There are only two other sides to the triangle, and there can be only one side which is opposite of the 30° angle and one side which is adjacent.

Hint: the opposite side to the angle is the side which doesn't form the angle. The adjacent side is that side (not the hypotenuse) which does form the angle.
 
joker2014 said:
I know this and memorized this, even using SOH CAH TOA,, but I can't apply it to the problems I am getting now

If you are familiar with the drawing Steamking posted then just turn it around until the arrangement matches what's on the problem statement. For example..

Angles.png
 
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