Confusion with Kirchhoff's Law in Circuit Diagram

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The discussion revolves around applying Kirchhoff's first law to a circuit diagram. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the circuit's configuration and the corresponding equations related to current flow.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the labeling of currents in the circuit and question the accuracy of the diagram. There are suggestions to clarify the direction of currents and to apply Kirchhoff's law by examining the sums of currents entering and leaving nodes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is an emphasis on understanding the assumptions about current direction and the implications of those assumptions on the resulting equations.

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There is mention of an attached diagram that was initially missing, which is crucial for interpreting the problem correctly. The original poster also indicates uncertainty about the correctness of the circuit drawing.

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Homework Statement


I have this circuit diagram (see attached), and the question is: Which of the following equations is Kirchhoff's first rule as applied to the above circuit?
With the answers:
I1 + I2 + I3 = 0
I1 - I2 + I3 = 0
I1 + I2 - I3 = 0
I1 - I2 - I3 = 0
(it's multiple choice)
The


Homework Equations


sum of Iin = sum of I out


The Attempt at a Solution


I can't even begin. I understand Kirchoff's laws pretty well, but it just appears to me that the circuit is drawn wrong.

What am I doing wrong?
 

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It seems that your attached diagram isn't attached :smile:
 
gneill said:
It seems that your attached diagram isn't attached :smile:

Now it is :smile:
 
Apply the equation that you posted. What is the sum of currents going in? What is the sum of currents coming out? Look at your drawing.
 
I see that the diagram has the currents labeled on each branch. Why don't you add some more such arrows nearer the nodes where the currents come together or diverge? Note that the current in any given series connected branch is always the same current!
 
kuruman said:
Apply the equation that you posted. What is the sum of currents going in? What is the sum of currents coming out? Look at your drawing.

I see part of it, but shouldn't the current in I3 flow the other direction?
 
jforce93 said:
I see part of it, but shouldn't the current in I3 flow the other direction?

Whether the actual current flows in the other direction or not does not matter; it simply means that when the equations are solved and calculations are completed with the assumed direction, it will yield a negative value for that current.

Take the assumed directions as given and write the equation from them.
 
gneill said:
Whether the actual current flows in the other direction or not does not matter; it simply means that when the equations are solved and calculations are completed with the assumed direction, it will yield a negative value for that current.

Take the assumed directions as given and write the equation from them.

okay, thanks
 

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