Conjugate Elements of a Symmetric Group

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The discussion revolves around the concept of conjugate elements within the context of symmetric groups, specifically S5. Participants are exploring definitions and properties related to conjugacy and the order of elements in group theory.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the definition of conjugate elements and discussing examples within the symmetric group S5. There are attempts to compute conjugates and relate them to the order of elements. Questions about the relationship between cycle shapes and conjugacy are also raised.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants confirming definitions and sharing insights about the properties of conjugate elements. There is an exploration of the theorem regarding cycle shapes and their relation to conjugacy, although no consensus has been reached on specific calculations or examples.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of calculating conjugates and the relevance of cycle shapes in understanding conjugacy within S5. There is mention of the number of different cycle shapes present in the group.

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Is the the following definition correct?

Two elements a and b of a group G are said to be CONJUGATE if there exists g in G such that a=gbg^{-1}.

For instance, show that all elements in the symmetric group S5 of order 6 conjugate.
 
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EDIT: Yes, that's the correct definition, as well. Again, do it: take an element of order 6, compute its conjugates with a couple of elements and see who to generate all elements of order 6.

Eg, in S_n n>2, consider (12)(23)(12)=(13), thus it's clear that all elements of order 2 are conjugate
 
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Incidentally, when i say "just do it" I'm not being impatient, it's just that sometimes in maths you sadly just have to get your hands dirty with some calculations.
 
I know, I just think I remember a theorem that says two elements in a symmetric group are conjugate if and only if they have the same cycle shape. There are 7 different cycle shapes in S5, I think.
 
Not sure what you're getting at. Perhaps if you realized there was only one cycle shape which corresponded to elements of order 6 that would help.
 

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