No group of order 10,000 is simple

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In summary, the conversation discusses the proof that there is no simple group of order 10^4. It uses Sylow theory and a permutation representation to show that the kernel of the representation is a nontrivial normal subgroup, contradicting the assumption that the group is simple.
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Show that there is no simple group of order ##10^4##.

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By way of contradiction, suppose ##G## is simple and ##|G| = 10000 = 5^42^4##. Sylow theory gives ##|\operatorname{Syl}_2(G)| = 1## or ##16##. If ##|\operatorname{Syl}_2(G)| = 1##, then there is a Sylow 2-subgroup that is normal, and so we would have a contradiction. So suppose that ##|\operatorname{Syl}_2(G)| = 16##. Consider the action of ##G## on ##\operatorname{Syl}_2(G)## by conjugation and let $$\phi : G \to S_{16}$$ be the associated permutation representation. The map ##\phi## is nontrivial since the action is transitive by the second part of Sylow theory, which says that all Sylow p-subgroups are conjugate of each other. This show that the kernel of ##\phi## is not all of ##G##. Also, note that ##10^4## does not divide ##16!##, since ##16! = 2^{15}×3^6×5^3×7^2×11×13##, and this prime factorization does not contain ##5^4##. Hence ##\phi## is not injective, and so the kernel is not trivial. Hence ##\ker(\phi)## is a proper nontrivial normal subgroup of ##G##, which contradicts out assumption that ##G## is simple.
 
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Perhaps a late answer, but it looks ok to me.
 

FAQ: No group of order 10,000 is simple

1. What does it mean for a group to be simple?

For a group to be simple means that it has no non-trivial normal subgroups. This means that the only subgroups of a simple group are the identity and the group itself.

2. Why is it important to study groups of order 10,000?

Groups of order 10,000 are important because they are a large and diverse class of mathematical objects that have many applications in various fields, including geometry, cryptography, and physics.

3. What is the significance of a group of order 10,000 not being simple?

If a group of order 10,000 is not simple, it means that it has at least one non-trivial normal subgroup. This can provide important insights into the structure and properties of the group, and it can also be used in various mathematical proofs and constructions.

4. Is it possible for a group of order 10,000 to be simple?

No, it is not possible for a group of order 10,000 to be simple. This is because the only possible orders for simple groups are prime numbers, and 10,000 is not a prime number.

5. What implications does this have for other groups of similar order?

If we know that no group of order 10,000 is simple, it also implies that no group of order 10,000 or any multiple of 10,000 can be simple. This can help us narrow down the possibilities and make important connections between different groups of similar order.

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