Conservation of Energy in circular motion

In summary, a block with mass m is initially at rest at the height of 2R on a semicircular track. It then slides without friction. The block will leave the track at a velocity of zero, and the maximum height it will reach after leaving the track can be determined by using the equation mgh = mgh' + 0.5mv'^2. The block will continue to slide until its velocity is zero, and its motion can be described using Newton's Second Law. The angle theta at the moment the block leaves the track is unknown, but the free body diagram can be drawn assuming the block is on the upper part of the track and its angle relative to an imaginary horizontal line through the center of the track
  • #36
terryds said:
As Θ increases, V increases since it is sinus function (in 0-90 degree quadrant).

Hmm.. I think I almost figured it out, right ? The only thing I miss is just the launch angle (Let's call this α )
http://www.sumoware.com/images/temp/xzihalbxxfsximxp.png
Could you please tell me what is the relation between α and Θ ?
As theta increases, the block is rising, so must be losing KE and slowing.
Further, the fraction of the speed which is vertical is also decreasing, so it can't be as sin theta.
 
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  • #37
haruspex said:
As theta increases, the block is rising, so must be losing KE and slowing.
Further, the fraction of the speed which is vertical is also decreasing, so it can't be as sin theta.

So, it is cos theta ? Right ?
 
  • #38
terryds said:
So, it is cos theta ? Right ?
Yes vy = v cos(theta). Now, what about the value of v as a function of theta?
 
  • #39
haruspex said:
Yes vy = v cos(theta). Now, what about the value of v as a function of theta?

Do you mean the velocity as a function of theta when it's still on the track ?
E = E'
mg (2R) = mgh' + 1/2 mv^2
g (2R) = g(R+R sinΘ) + 1/2 v^2
2gR - gR - gR sinΘ = 1/2 v^2
gR (1-sin Θ) = 1/2 v^2
v = √(2 gR(1-sinΘ))

Is it right ?
 
  • #40
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terryds said:
Do you mean the velocity as a function of theta when it's still on the track ?
E = E'
mg (2R) = mgh' + 1/2 mv^2
g (2R) = g(R+R sinΘ) + 1/2 v^2
2gR - gR - gR sinΘ = 1/2 v^2
gR (1-sin Θ) = 1/2 v^2
v = √(2 gR(1-sinΘ))

Is it right ?
Right. So vy is?
 
  • #41
haruspex said:
y
Right. So vy is?

vy = v cos Θ
vy = cos Θ √(2 gR(1-sinΘ))

The sin of angle θ is 2/3
So, the cos of angle Θ is √5 / 3
vy = √5 / 3 √(2 gR(1-(2/3)))
vy = √((10/27) gR)

Then,
Vy(t) ^2 = Vy(0) ^2 - 2 g Δy
0 = (10/27) gR - 2g Δy
Δy = 5/27 R

Then, the maximum height is R+(2/3)R+(5/27)R = (50/27) R
Right ?
Please tell me if I missed something
 
  • #42
terryds said:
vy = v cos Θ
vy = cos Θ √(2 gR(1-sinΘ))

The sin of angle θ is 2/3
So, the cos of angle Θ is √5 / 3
vy = √5 / 3 √(2 gR(1-(2/3)))
vy = √((10/27) gR)

Then,
Vy(t) ^2 = Vy(0) ^2 - 2 g Δy
0 = (10/27) gR - 2g Δy
Δy = 5/27 R

Then, the maximum height is R+(2/3)R+(5/27)R = (50/27) R
Right ?
Please tell me if I missed something
That's what I get.
 
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