Conservation of Energy, Simple Harmonic Motion

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The problem involves a uniform bar released from a vertical position, with a focus on the conservation of energy principles in the context of simple harmonic motion. Participants are tasked with finding the tangential speed of one end of the bar as it strikes a horizontal surface, considering the spring constant and gravitational effects.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply energy conservation principles but expresses uncertainty about their calculations, suggesting a possible arithmetic error. Some participants question the completeness of the energy equation used, specifically regarding the kinetic energy of the bar's center of mass.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the problem, with one providing feedback on the original poster's approach. There is acknowledgment of a potential oversight in the energy equation, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correct method or solution.

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The original poster mentions a deadline for the assignment, indicating time constraints that may affect the depth of the discussion. There is also a reference to partial credit being obtained, suggesting that the problem may have been submitted despite uncertainties.

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Homework Statement


A 0.200-m uniform bar has a mass of 0.790 kg and is released from rest in the vertical position, as the drawing indicates. The spring is initially unstrained and has a spring constant of k = 20.0 N/m. Find the tangential speed with which end A strikes the horizontal surface.
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Homework Equations


Eup=mgh=Edown=.5Iw2+.5ky2

[tex]\sqrt{3(mgL-ky^{2}}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\sqrt{.1^{2}+.2^{2}}-.1=.124[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{\frac{3(.79 kg)(9.8 m/s/s)(.2 m)-(20 N/m)(.124 m)^{2}}{.790}}=2.343 m/s[/tex]

I think that I went about this the right way and simply made an arithmetic error or plugged in something incorrect. Any help will be greatly appreciated, as I must have this assignment completed by midnight.
 

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Any suggestions?
 
Just saw this, looks like it's too late.

In the energy equation, you omitted the kinetic energy of the bar's center-of-mass, (1/2)mv2. (v is the velocity of the center of the bar.)
 
Redbelly98 said:
Just saw this, looks like it's too late.

In the energy equation, you omitted the kinetic energy of the bar's center-of-mass, (1/2)mv2. (v is the velocity of the center of the bar.)

Thank you, I appreciate the help anyway so that I can do the problems in the future. I was able to turn in that problem later for partial credit - a friend helped me.

:]
 

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