Conserved Quantities in GR: Explained

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The discussion centers on the concept of conserved quantities in General Relativity (GR), specifically regarding the constants of motion ##p_0## and ##p_\phi## in spherical geometry. Participants clarify that these quantities are constants of geodesic motion, meaning they do not change over time. The energy of a particle is influenced by its 4-momentum and the 4-velocity of the observer, rather than the metric alone. A deeper understanding requires mathematical expressions for ##p_0## and the associated quantities.

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Hello! I am reading about spherical geometry and for a static system and based on the metric, ##p_0## and ##p_\phi## are constant of motion. I am not sure I understand in which sense are they constant? The energy of a particle measured by an observer depends on the metric (so on its position) in space. So ##p_0## is not the energy of the particle (can't even be measured I think). Can someone explain this to me a bit more? Thank you!
 
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Silviu said:
I am reading about spherical geometry

From what source? Please give a specific reference.

Silviu said:
based on the metric, ##p_0## and ##p_\phi## are constant of motion

They are constants of geodesic motion.

Silviu said:
I am not sure I understand in which sense are they constant?

"Constant" means "does not change".

Silviu said:
The energy of a particle measured by an observer depends on the metric (so on its position) in space

No, it doesn't. It depends on the 4-momentum of the particle and the 4-velocity of the observer.

Silviu said:
So ##p_0## is not the energy of the particle

Not the energy measured by an observer that is (momentarily) co-located with the particle, no--at least, assuming the observer and the particle are not at infinity.

Silviu said:
(can't even be measured I think)

Yes, it can, but it's not as straightforward as an observer co-located just measuring the particle's energy.

Silviu said:
Can someone explain this to me a bit more?

It would help greatly if you would give a specific reference and show some math. You should particularly focus on the actual mathematical expression for ##p_0##. What quantities occur in it? What do those quantities mean?
 

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