Conserving Quantity in Schwarzschild Metric

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of conserved quantities in the context of the Schwarzschild metric, particularly focusing on the conditions under which a parameter is considered affine along a geodesic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a mathematical framework involving the conserved quantity along a geodesic in the Schwarzschild metric, specifically noting that ##K=k^u V_u## is constant.
  • The same participant questions the assumption that the parameter ##s## is affine and seeks clarification on why ##V^u=(\dot{t},\dot{r},\dot{\theta},\dot{\phi})## represents the tangent vector to an affinely parameterised geodesic.
  • Another participant asserts that if ##s## is not an affine parameter, then ##k^u V_u## will not be conserved, implying a direct relationship between the nature of the parameter and the conservation of the quantity.
  • A later reply acknowledges the earlier confusion and confirms that the proof indeed shows that ##k^u V_u## is a conserved quantity when ##s## is an affine parameter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumption of ##s## being an affine parameter, with some asserting its necessity for conservation while others question it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the justification of ##s## as an affine parameter.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependency on the definitions of affine parameters and conserved quantities, as well as the implications of these definitions on the mathematical framework presented.

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Homework Statement



Conserved quantity Schwarzschild metric.

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The Attempt at a Solution


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##\partial_u=\delta^u_i=k^u## is the KVF ##i=1,2,3##

We have that along a geodesic ##K=k^uV_u## is constant , where ##V^u ## is the tangent vector to some affinely parameterised geodesic.

For example if we take the Schwarzschild metric, ##K^u=(1,0,0,0)## , ##V^u=(\dot{t},\dot{r},\dot{\theta},\dot{\phi})## so we get ##K= (1-\frac{2GM}{r})\dot{t}## is conserved, for example.

where dot denotes a derivative with respect to some affine parameter ##s##

QUESTION:

What here is to say that ##s## is an affine parameter?
I.e- why is ##V^u=(\dot{t},\dot{r},\dot{\theta},\dot{\phi})## the tangent vector to an affinely parameterised geodesic?
 
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You assumed it to be an affine parameter and then wonder why it is affine?

If it is not an affine parameter ##k^u V_u## will not be a conserved quantity.
 
Orodruin said:
You assumed it to be an affine parameter and then wonder why it is affine?

If it is not an affine parameter ##k^u V_u## will not be a conserved quantity.

ahh apologies got it yes, it is in the proof showing that ##k^u V_u## will not be a conserved quantity is a conserved quantity.
 

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