Constructing forces (mechanics)

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The discussion revolves around a statics problem involving the determination of reaction forces at points A and C in a mechanical frame under loading conditions. Participants explore the correct interpretation of force directions and the application of equilibrium equations in the context of mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how to determine the correct direction of forces in a statics problem, noting that different interpretations lead to different angles of force application.
  • Another participant suggests a straightforward approach of assuming horizontal and vertical components of force at points A, B, and C, emphasizing the absence of moments due to pinned joints.
  • A third participant mentions that member AB represents a two-force body, while member BCD represents a three-force body, highlighting the specific conditions of the problem.
  • A later reply raises the point that even pinned joints can experience moments from reaction forces, indicating a potential complexity in the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of force directions and the implications of pinned joints on moments. No consensus is reached on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the need for clarity regarding the assumptions made about force directions and the conditions of equilibrium, but these remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Students studying mechanics or statics, particularly those working on problems involving equilibrium and reaction forces in mechanical systems.

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Homework Statement


I've attached a picture of my problem (with diagram): 4.70 .

"For the frame and loading show, determine the reactions at A and C."

From the diagram, you can see that the metal object is made up of 2 parts:
1) A to B
2) B to D


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how do you arrive at the correct direction of the forces (ie: angle of the force; direction of its "application"). I have 2 interpretations and they will give different angles with which the force is applied (same magnitudes though). Which one is the correct interpretation? Because this is a statics problem (bodies at equilibrium), the sum of the forces = 0 (illustrated by the triangles).

How do you logically determine which interpretation (of force directions) is correct when you do these problems?

Thank you.
 

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The simple minded thing to do is just assume there is a horizontal and vertical compoent of force at A B and C. There are no moments at A B or C because the joints are all pinned.

Then write the equations of equilibrium for each two components. There are 3 equations for each component, that's 6 equations for the 6 unknown forces.

If you want top do it by a "neater" method, start by looking at the equlilbrium of AB. Take moments about A (or B) and it should be clear what is the direction the forces at A and B.

Hint: one of the options you drew is right.
 
It is worth also mentioning, the member AB is the special case of a two forces body, and the member BCD of a 3 forces (no parallel) body of statics.
 
Thanks guys. Even though something is pinned though, there can still be a moment of the reaction forces at that point. I have a test tomorrow so when I'm done with it (may take a day or 2 for me to get remotivated, but I'll post something that shows that). I'll also try your way to figure out the prob. Hopefully this won't be asked before I figure it out :)

I'm appending what I wrote: above... the moment of the forces where something in "pinned" = 0.
 

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