I Construction of reals through Dedekind cuts in Baby Rudin

  • I
  • Thread starter Thread starter psie
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Real analysis
Click For Summary
The discussion centers on the construction of real numbers through Dedekind cuts as presented in Baby Rudin. It highlights the ordered set of Dedekind cuts and the properties of a specific set ##\beta## derived from a fixed cut ##\alpha##. The proof of the equation ##\alpha+\beta=0^\ast## relies on the archimedean property to show that the set of integers ##\{n:nw\in\alpha\}## is nonempty and bounded above, thus possessing a maximal element. The significance of the archimedean property is crucial in establishing these characteristics of the set. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the foundational aspects of real number construction and the role of the archimedean property in the proof.
psie
Messages
315
Reaction score
40
TL;DR
I'm reading about the construction of the reals from Dedekind cuts in Rudin's PMA. This is the proof of Theorem 1.19 in the appendix of chapter 1. Specifically, I'm on step 4, where the author tries to show ##R## (the real field) has an additive inverse.
We have ##R##, the set of Dedekind cuts which is an ordered set by proper inclusion. Fix an ##\alpha\in R## and let ##\beta## be the set of all ##p## with the following property: $$\text{there exists }r>0\text{ such that }-p-r\notin\alpha.$$

Rudin shows ##\beta\in R## and that ##\alpha+\beta=0^\ast=\{\text{the negative rationals}\}##. When proving ##\supset## in ##\alpha+\beta=0^\ast##, the author picks ##v\in 0^\ast## and puts ##w=-v/2##. Then he claims that ##w>0## and there is an integer ##n## such that ##nw\in\alpha## but ##(n+1)w\notin\alpha##. He says this depends on the archimedean property. How?

I gather we are looking at the set ##\{n:nw\in\alpha\}##, and we want to show it has a maximal element. It's been a long day here, so I don't immediately see how to show this. I think it suffices to show it is nonempty and bounded above. I struggle with both of these. I fail to see the significance of the archimedean property.

A Dedekind cut is any set ##\alpha\subset Q## with the following three properties:
(i) ##\alpha## is not empty and ##\alpha\neq Q##.
(ii) if ##p\in\alpha##, ##q\in Q## and ##q<p##, then ##q\in\alpha##.
(iii) if ##p\in\alpha##, then ##p<r## for some ##r\in\alpha##.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I figured it out after a little bit of thinking. Both the fact that ##\{n:nw\in\alpha\}## is nonempty and bounded above uses the archimedean property.