Continuity and liimit of functions

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the continuity of a limit function derived from a sequence of continuous functions defined on the interval [0, 1]. The original poster questions whether the pointwise convergence of these functions implies the continuity of the limit function.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of pointwise convergence versus uniform convergence, referencing the Arzela-Ascoli theorem. They discuss the necessity of finding a counter-example to illustrate the potential discontinuity of the limit function.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights suggesting that pointwise convergence alone does not guarantee continuity of the limit function. There is a focus on constructing counter-examples, with some participants indicating that piecewise linear functions may serve this purpose.

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Participants are considering the definitions and implications of convergence types, particularly in the context of continuity and the conditions of the Arzela-Ascoli theorem. The discussion acknowledges the limitations of the information provided in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


Suppose f_n : [0, 1]\rightarrow R is continuous and lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}f_n(x) exists for each x in [0,1]. Denote the limit by f(x).

Is f necessarily continuous?

Homework Equations


We know by Arzela-Ascoli theorem:
If f_n: [a,b] \rightarrow R is continuous, and f_n converges to funiformly, then f is continuous.

The Attempt at a Solution


Question: Does the fact of knowing
lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}f_n(x) exists for each x \in [0,1]. Denote the limit by f(x).
give us insight to declare that f_n converges to f uniformly- and thus satisfying Arzela-Ascoli's theorem?

Thanks,Jeffrey Levesque
 
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Well, no. They only gave you that the fn are continuous and converge pointwise. I think they want you find an example of a sequence of continuous functions that are pointwise convergent but don't have an continuous limit. Can you think of one?
 
Can someone provide some insight for me as to what the following means:

jeff1evesque said:
lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}f_n(x) exists for each x in [0,1]. Denote the limit by f(x).

And how I could use this fact to construct my justification for whether f is necessarily continuous?
 
f isn't necessarily continuous. Face it. It says fn converges at each point. That's not enough to prove f is continuous.
 
Dick is suggesting that you find a counter-example. Taking fn to be piecewise linear will suffice.
 
The Arzela-Ascoli theorem asserts something about a sequence of equicontinuous functions. This has little to do with your question [or you have seen a different version of A-A].

Just construct a counter-example, i.e. a sequence of continuous functions (f_n)_n which converges pointwise to some discontinuous function. (Every book that introduces the concept of 'uniform convergence' will have such a counter-example, so you probably have encountered one already.)
 

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