Continuity of f^+ .... Browder Corollary 3.13

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The discussion revolves around the proof of Corollary 3.13 from Andrew Browder's "Mathematical Analysis: An Introduction," specifically addressing the continuity of the function \( f^+ = \text{max}(f, 0) \) when \( f \) is continuous. Participants explore various cases and conditions under which continuity can be established, particularly focusing on points where \( f \) crosses the x-axis.

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Main Points Raised

  • Peter seeks assistance in proving that \( f^+ \) is continuous, noting that continuity is straightforward when \( f \) is positive or negative, but problematic at points where \( f \) crosses the x-axis.
  • Some participants suggest considering three cases for \( f(x_0) \): when \( f(x_0) > 0 \), \( f(x_0) = 0 \), and \( f(x_0) < 0 \), indicating that continuity can be established in the first and third cases.
  • Peter expresses confusion regarding the second case, specifically when \( f(x) = 0 \), and seeks clarification on how to handle this situation.
  • Peter proposes a proof for the case where \( f \) crosses the x-axis, suggesting that continuity can be shown by examining open neighborhoods around points where \( f \) transitions from positive to zero and vice versa.
  • A later post corrects a typographical error regarding the case numbers but does not resolve the underlying issues raised in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how to handle the case when \( f(x) = 0 \). There are multiple competing views on the continuity of \( f^+ \) at points where \( f \) crosses the x-axis, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the handling of cases where \( f \) crosses the x-axis, particularly in constructing a proof that addresses continuity at those points. There are also indications of missing assumptions and the need for further clarification on specific steps in the proof.

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I am reading Andrew Browder's book: "Mathematical Analysis: An Introduction" ... ...

I am currently reading Chapter 3: Continuous Functions on Intervals and am currently focused on Section 3.1 Limits and Continuity ... ...

I need some help with the proof of Corollary 3.13 ...Corollary 3.13 reads as follows:View attachment 9520Can someone help me to prove that if $$f$$ is continuous then $$f^+ = \text{max} (f, 0)$$ is continuous ...My thoughts are as follows:If $$c$$ belongs to an interval where $$f$$ is positive then $$f^+$$ is continuous since $$f$$ is continuous ... further, if $$c$$ belongs to an interval where $$f$$ is negative then $$f^+$$ is continuous since $$g(x) = 0$$ is continuous ... but how do we construct a proof for those points where $$f(x)$$ crosses the $$x$$-axis ... ..

Help will be much appreciated ...

Peter
 

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To prove f^+ is continuous at x_0 consider 3 cases:
1) f(x_0)&gt; 0.
2) f(x_0)= 0.
3) f(x_0)&lt; 0.

Since f is continuous, in case (1) there exist an interval around x_0 such that f(x)> 0
and f^+(x)= f(x)

for all x in the interval

Since f is continuous, in case (1) there exist an interval around x_0 such that f(x)< 0 and f^+(x)= 0 for all x in the interval.
 
HallsofIvy said:
To prove f^+ is continuous at x_0 consider 3 cases:
1) f(x_0)&gt; 0.
2) f(x_0)= 0.
3) f(x_0)&lt; 0.

Since f is continuous, in case (1) there exist an interval around x_0 such that f(x)> 0
and f^+(x)= f(x)

for all x in the interval

Since f is continuous, in case (1) there exist an interval around x_0 such that f(x)< 0 and f^+(x)= 0 for all x in the interval.


Thanks for the help ...

BUT ... you do not describe what to do in case 2 ... and as I indicated it is when f(x) = 0, specifically when f crosses the x-axis that I am having trouble dealing with ...

Peter
 
Peter said:
Thanks for the help ...

BUT ... you do not describe what to do in case 2 ... and as I indicated it is when f(x) = 0, specifically when f crosses the x-axis that I am having trouble dealing with ...

Peter

After reflecting on this problem for some time ... here is my proof for the situation where the point investigated is a point where $$f$$ crosses the x-axis ...I think it will suffice to prove that $$f^+$$ is continuous for the case where a point $$c_1 \in \mathbb{R}$$ is such that for $$x \lt c_1, \ f(x) = f^+(x)$$ is positive and for $$x \gt c_1, \ f^+(x) = 0$$ ... ... while for some point $$c_2 \gt c_1$$ we have that $$f^+(x) = 0$$ for $$x \lt c_2$$ and $$f(x) = f^+(x)$$ is positive for $$x \gt c_2$$ ... ... ... see Figure 1 below ...

View attachment 9522Now consider an (open) neighbourhood $$V$$ of $$f^+(c_1)$$ where...
$$V= \{ f^+(x) \ : \ -f^+(a_1) \lt f^+(c_1) \lt f^+(a_1)$$ for some $$a_1 \in \mathbb{R} \}

$$

so ...$$V= \{ f^+(x) \ : \ -f^+(a_1) \lt 0 \lt f^+(a_1)$$ for some $$a_1 \in \mathbb{R} \}$$ ...

Then ... (see Figure 1) ...
$$(f^+)^{ -1 } (V) = \{ a_1 \lt x \lt a_2 \}$$ which is an open set as required ...
Further crossings of the x-axis by $$f$$ just lead to further sets of the nature $$\{ a_{ n-1 } \lt x \lt a_n \}$$ which are also open ... so ...

$$(f^+)^{ -1 } (V) = \{ a_1 \lt x \lt a_2 \} \cup \{ a_3 \lt x \lt a_4 \} \cup \ldots \cup \{ a_{n-1} \lt x \lt a_n \}$$
which being a union of open sets is also an open set ...

The proof is similar if $$f$$ first crosses the x-axis from below ...

Is that correct?Peter
 

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HallsofIvy said:
To prove f^+ is continuous at x_0 consider 3 cases:
1) f(x_0)&gt; 0.
2) f(x_0)= 0.
3) f(x_0)&lt; 0.

Since f is continuous, in case (1) there exist an interval around x_0 such that f(x)> 0
and f^+(x)= f(x)

for all x in the interval

Since f is continuous, in case (1) there exist an interval around x_0 such that f(x)< 0 and f^+(x)= 0 for all x in the interval.


TYPO: in the last sentence "case (1)" should have been "case (2)".
 

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