Continuous function on intervals

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of continuous functions defined on the interval (0,1] and whether such functions can lack an absolute minimum or maximum. Participants are tasked with providing counterexamples to illustrate their points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of continuity on the interval (0,1] and question the differences between closed and open intervals. There are discussions about breaking the interval into smaller subintervals and the characteristics of functions as they approach the endpoints of the interval.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering various examples and counterexamples of functions that may or may not have absolute extrema. Some participants are clarifying the requirements of the problem and exploring the continuity of suggested functions.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the definitions of continuity and the behavior of functions as they approach the boundaries of the interval. Some participants express uncertainty about the continuity of specific functions, particularly those that oscillate or have sharp peaks.

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Homework Statement


f:(0,1]->R be a continuous function. Is it possible that f does not have an absolute min or max. Give counter examples


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The Attempt at a Solution


Since f is partially bounded, if I break the interval down into smaller sub intervals, each will have an abs min and max. So I will have at least one of the extremes.
 
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The problem says 'give counterexamples'. Do that. They aren't hard to find.
 
"if I break the interval down into smaller sub intervals, each will have an abs min and max."

If you break the interval into a union smaller intervals, you will always have one interval of the form (0, a) where a is some real in (0,1]. What is the difference between [0,1] and (0,1]? Does a continuous function on [0,1] attain a min/max?

Think of some functions on (0,1] that may not have a min or max (you might want to think of f(x) as x approaches 0)
 
How about f(x) = 1 if x=1 and f(x) = 1/(x-1) if x Not= 1. Then as x->0 , f(x) is increasing and as x-> 1, f(x) is decreasing. Since it is 1 at one, it is not the minimum.
 
That f is also not continuous on (0,1]. Keep it simple. How about f(x)=1/x?
 
Then f has an abs min at x=1. even though it is continuous
 
rapple said:
Then f has an abs min at x=1. even though it is continuous

Oh, I thought you wanted no max or no min. You want neither max NOR min. How about a function that oscillates with increasing increasing frequency and magnitude as x->0? Can you give an example of one of those?
 
How about sin(1/x)/x. But I don't think it is continuous because of the sharp peaks. Is it a form of sin function?
 
rapple said:
How about sin(1/x)/x. But I don't think it is continuous because of the sharp peaks. Is it a form of sin function?

That's perfect. It's continuous on (0,1]. The only place it has a problem is at x=0. But x=0 is not in (0,1].
 
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Thank you. You seem to have a way of making it happen!
 

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