# Convective and conductive heat transfer

1. Jan 16, 2012

### DarkBlitz

Hey, I was doing some revison for a test and i came across this question which I cant get my head around

a clyndrical copper block, 0.3m in diameter and 0.4m long is initially at a uniform temp of 60°C and half its curved surface is exposed to a heat flux of 450w/m^2. If the complete surface is being cooled by convection heat transfer to the surrounding air at 20°C, determine the final temperature of the block, assuming it is uniform throughout.

Determine the time to cool the block from 60 degrees to the final temperature. assuming the convective heat transfer is constant throughout the cooling process and can be calculated using the average temperature of the block during the cooling process.

For each case, identify an appropriate system and energy balance and use the following date: p(copper) =8900 kg/m^3
C(copper) =400j/kg
convective heat transfer coefficient = 20w/m^2k

I'm haven't tried the second half of the question as I can not get the first part.
So far, i have said that:
Qdotin=Qdotout
flux*Half curved surface= h* Atotal * (Tsurface - Tair)
But my problem with this equation is to find an expression for T surface in terms of the final and initial temperature.

Am I on the right track?

Thanks

Last edited: Jan 16, 2012
2. Jan 16, 2012

### AlephZero

The first part says
That is telling you to assume Tsurface is equal the the uniform final temperature.

It is physically impossible for the temperature to be uniform throughout, because there would be no heat conduction in the block. But you have to use the assumptions the question tells you to use.

3. Jan 16, 2012

### DarkBlitz

ah ok, but then what do i do with the initial 60 degree temperature?

4. Jan 16, 2012

### DarkBlitz

oh, that might be for the second part of the question, ill give it a go thanks!

5. Jan 16, 2012

### DarkBlitz

I got the first part, but for the second part of the question,
I used the formula:
m*c*deltaT/t = hA(Ts-Tf)
Where Ts is the average temperature of the copper during cooling and we are solving for T, however i do not get the right answer. The answer is 5.4hours.

Which part of the equation is wrong?

6. Jan 16, 2012

### AlephZero

Yup, that's right. Give it a go...