Convergence by Comparison Test

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The discussion revolves around proving the convergence of the series $$\sum\limits_{n=1}^∞ \frac{n+1}{n^3}$$ using the comparison test, specifically in relation to the known convergent series $$\sum\limits_{n=1}^∞ \frac{1}{n^2}$$. Participants explore the validity of direct comparison and limit comparison methods in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenges of using direct comparison with $$\frac{1}{n^2}$$, noting that the inequality $$\frac{n+1}{n^3} < \frac{1}{n^2}$$ leads to a false statement. Some suggest exploring whether $$\frac{1}{n^2} + \frac{1}{n^3}$$ can be bounded by a constant multiple of $$\frac{1}{n^2}$$.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the comparison test's applicability, with some participants suggesting that the limit comparison test may be more suitable. Others express uncertainty about the requirements for direct comparison, while some affirm that the convergence of $$\sum\frac{1}{n^2}$$ can be leveraged to argue for the convergence of the series in question.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of adhering to the specific comparison test mentioned in the problem and question the implications of their instructor's expectations regarding the rigor of the proof.

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Homework Statement


Use $$\sum\limits_{n=1}^∞ \frac{1}{n^2}$$ to prove by the comparison test that $$\sum\limits_{n=1}^∞ \frac{n+1}{n^3} $$ converges.

Homework Equations


$$\sum\limits_{n=1}^∞ \frac{n+1}{n^3} \equiv \sum\limits_{n=1}^∞ \frac{1}{n^2} + \sum\limits_{n=1}^∞ \frac{1}{n^3} $$

The Attempt at a Solution


$$ \frac{n+1}{n^3} < \frac{1}{n^2}$$
$$ n + 1 < n $$
$$ 1 < 0 $$ which is false.
I cannot prove the convergence of the series by direct comparison with 1/n2, correct? The series is a sum of 2 p-series (p > 1) so it is clearly a convergent series and can be shown by limit comparison with 1/n2, but I cannot see how I can prove this by direct comparison because there is no way that 1/n2 + 1/n3 is less than 1/n2 if n > 0...
 
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vanceEE said:
I cannot see how I can prove this by direct comparison because there is no way that 1/n2 + 1/n3 is less than 1/n2 if n > 0...

True, but can you show 1/n2 + 1/n3 is less than some constant times 1/n2?
 
Looks like direct comparison test doesn't work, but it's possible that "comparison test" in the problem could also refer to the limit comparison test -- see if that works instead.
 
jackarms said:
Looks like direct comparison test doesn't work, but it's possible that "comparison test" in the problem could also refer to the limit comparison test -- see if that works instead.

The problem was referring to direct comparison; limit comparison does in fact work as I stated in my original post. I'm aware that I'm dealing with a convergent series, but I just wanted to confirm whether or not direct comparison with 1/n2 is inconclusive.
 
AlephZero said:
True, but can you show 1/n2 + 1/n3 is less than some constant times 1/n2?

Yes, that seems feasible.
##\frac{n+1}{n^3} < c(\frac{1}{n^2}) ##
##\frac{n+1}{n^3} < \frac{c}{n^2} ##
##1 + \frac{1}{n} < c##
##\frac{1}{n} < c-1 ## if c > 2.

Let c = 3
## \frac{n+1}{n^3} < 3(\frac{1}{n^2}) ##
## n^3 + n^2 < 3n^3 ##
## 1 + \frac{1}{n} < 2 ##
## \frac{1}{n} < 1 ## for all n > 1.

Therefore, ##\frac{n+1}{n^3} < \frac{c}{n^2} ## where c > 2,
but I'm still kinda iffy about this, because I'm asked to prove the convergence with 1/n2.
 
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assume the sum 1/n^2 converges. for each positive integer n, (n+1)/n^3 = 1/n^2 + 1/n^3 which is less than or equal to 2/n^2. and the sum of 2/n^2 converges since each term in the sequence of partial sums equals 2 times the corresponding term in the sequence of partial sums for 1/n^2. (there is a theorem that states that if (xn) is a sequence of real numbers that converges to L, then the sequence (a * xn) where a is a real number converges to a * L).
 
vanceEE said:
but I'm still kinda iffy about this, because I'm asked to prove the convergence with 1/n2.

Well, we don't know how pedantic your math lecturer is.

But I would have thought that if you are told that ##\sum\frac{1}{n^2}## converges, it seems perfectly reasonable to use the fact that ##\sum\frac{2}{n^2}## also converges.
 

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