Convergence of Compact Sets in Metric Spaces

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The discussion revolves around a problem in metric spaces concerning the intersection of a sequence of closed subsets. The original poster questions the validity of the problem's conditions, particularly regarding the compactness of one of the sets and the implications for the intersection being non-empty.

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  • Participants explore the implications of compactness and the conditions under which the intersection of closed sets is non-empty. There are questions about the necessity of the non-empty condition for each set in the sequence.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions, and clarifying the role of compactness in the context of closed and nested sets. Some have acknowledged misunderstandings regarding the implications of the conditions stated in the problem.

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There is a noted concern about the possibility of a typo in the problem statement, particularly regarding the assumption that one of the sets can be empty while still being compact. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on the definitions and properties of compactness in metric spaces.

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I was just googling around and I came across this problem.

Let (X,d) be a metric space.

Let (An)n \in N be a sequence of closed subsets of X with the property An \supseteq An+1 for all n \in N. Suppose it exists an m \in N such that Am is compact. Prove that \bigcapn\in NAn is not empty.



I'm wondering if there is a typo here. Take some metric space. The we can set Am = ∅, and this is compact and closed, so it satisfies the conditions but the intersection is empty. What am I missing, thanks.
 
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The result is true with the added restriction that An ≠ ∅ for each n in N.
 
jgens said:
The result is true with the added restriction that An ≠ ∅ for each n in N.

If this were the case, then why would we need compactness?
 
sammycaps said:
If this were the case, then why would we need compactness?

Just because each A_n is nonempty, doesn't mean that the intersection is.

For example, take A_n=[n,+\infty[, then the intersection \bigcap A_n = \emptyset<br />. We need a compactness hypothesis somewhere.
 
micromass said:
Just because each A_n is nonempty, doesn't mean that the intersection is.

For example, take A_n=[n,+\infty[, then the intersection \bigcap A_n = \emptyset<br />. We need a compactness hypothesis somewhere.

Oh I see, that was stupid. Thanks!
 
sammycaps said:
I was just googling around and I came across this problem.

Let (X,d) be a metric space.

Let (An)n \in N be a sequence of closed subsets of X with the property An \supseteq An+1 for all n \in N. Suppose it exists an m \in N such that Am is compact. Prove that \bigcapn\in NAn is not empty.



I'm wondering if there is a typo here. Take some metric space. The we can set Am = ∅, and this is compact and closed, so it satisfies the conditions but the intersection is empty. What am I missing, thanks.

Notice that since Am is assumed compact, X is metric ( so Hausdorff ), and

Am \supseteq Am+1 , all of which are closed, then

the Am+i ;i=1,2,... , can be seen as compact subspaces of

Am. This is a standard theorem in Analysis/Topology.
 
Bacle2 said:
Notice that since Am is assumed compact, X is metric ( so Hausdorff ), and

Am \supseteq Am+1 , all of which are closed, then

the Am+i ;i=1,2,... , can be seen as compact subspaces of

Am. This is a standard theorem in Analysis/Topology.

Yeah, I just had a momentarily lapse in brain function where I didn't realize closed and nested doesn't imply a non-empty intersection.
 
sammycaps said:
Yeah, I just had a momentarily lapse in brain function ...

Aah,.., welcome to the club :) .
 

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