Convergence of Infinite Series: Two Examples

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of two infinite series. The first series is given by the expression (n-2)/(n^2-4n) from n=5 to infinity, while the second series involves the expression (1 - ((2^(k-1) - 1) / (2^(k+1))). Participants are exploring methods to determine whether these series converge or diverge.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the integral test and the ratio test for the first series, with some questioning the correctness of their conclusions. For the second series, there is uncertainty about how to begin the analysis, leading to suggestions for simplification and expansion of terms.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the convergence of both series, with participants providing guidance on simplification and questioning assumptions. Some participants have attempted calculations and shared their reasoning, while others have pointed out potential errors and suggested further investigation.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also a focus on ensuring clarity in the expressions used for the series.

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Okay, there's two questions, actually.

First, determine if the series converges.

SUM: (n-2)/(n^2-4n) (from n=5 to infinity)

I used the integral test, found the integral to be 1/2 log(n^2-4n) from x=5 to x=t as t approaches infinity. That turned out to go to infinity so the series diverges.

Does this seem right or did I do something wrong?


Second, Suppose a series is the SUM: (1 - ((2^(k-1) - 1) / (2^(k+1)))

Does the sum of the series converge or diverge? I'm not really even sure where to start this one.
 
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fender5791 said:
Okay, there's two questions, actually.

First, determine if the series converges.

SUM: (n-2)/(n^2-4n) (from n=5 to infinity)

I used the integral test, found the integral to be 1/2 log(n^2-4n) from x=5 to x=t as t approaches infinity. That turned out to go to infinity so the series diverges.

Does this seem right or did I do something wrong?
I used the ratio test and concluded the same thing.
fender5791 said:
Second, Suppose a series is the SUM: (1 - ((2^(k-1) - 1) / (2^(k+1)))

Does the sum of the series converge or diverge? I'm not really even sure where to start this one.

Here's what I think your series is:
[tex]\sum_{k = 1}^{\infty} \frac{1 - 2^{k - 1} - 1}{2^{k + 1}}[/tex]

If that's what it is, there's a lot of simplification you can do. After that you should be able to quickly determine whether it converges or not.
 
Mark44 said:
I used the ratio test and concluded the same thing.


Here's what I think your series is:
[tex]\sum_{k = 1}^{\infty} \frac{1 - 2^{k - 1} - 1}{2^{k + 1}}[/tex]

If that's what it is, there's a lot of simplification you can do. After that you should be able to quickly determine whether it converges or not.

No sorry, the first one is outside, then subtract the quantity starting with 2^k-1
 
Like this?
[tex]\sum_{k = 1}^{\infty} \left(1 - \frac{2^{k - 1} - 1}{2^{k + 1}}\right)[/tex]

Try expanding the series to see what the first few terms look like.
 
Mark44 said:
Like this?
[tex]\sum_{k = 1}^{\infty} \left(1 - \frac{2^{k - 1} - 1}{2^{k + 1}}\right)[/tex]

Try expanding the series to see what the first few terms look like.

YEs, and I tried that. I did the limit as k went to infinity of 2^(k-1) / 2^(k+1) which I think is one, then the last bit is zero, so the total went to zero which doesn't help me much.
 
fender5791 said:
YEs, and I tried that. I did the limit as k went to infinity of 2^(k-1) / 2^(k+1) which I think is one, then the last bit is zero, so the total went to zero which doesn't help me much.

That is incorrect. Try substituting a few values of k and you should immediately see what this term is. In general we have the rule:
[tex]\frac{a^x}{a^y} = a^{x-y}[/tex]
which you can use to calculate this term.

Anyway if you want to show that a series [itex]\sum a_i[/itex] diverges a common way is to show that you can find a positive number M such that [itex]a_i \geq M[/itex]. In your specific example can you find a lower bound for
[tex]1-\frac{2^{k-1}-1}{2^{k+1}}[/tex]
?
 
Thank you, got it now.
 

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