Convergence of Subsequences in a Set I

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of subsequences within a sequence in a set I. Participants are examining the implications of a subsequence converging to a point and whether this guarantees that the original sequence also converges to a point in the same set.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants explore the relationship between a sequence and its subsequences, questioning whether the convergence of a subsequence implies the convergence of the original sequence. Others provide examples to illustrate their points, while some clarify definitions and conditions related to subsequences.

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Participants are actively engaging with the question, providing examples and refining the original statement. There is a recognition of the subtlety in the definitions and conditions surrounding convergence, with some guidance offered on the necessity of considering all subsequences.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the nature of sequences and subsequences, including the potential for subsequences to lack infinite points from the original sequence. The conversation reflects on the definitions and implications of convergence within the context of set I.

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Homework Statement


Does
A subsequence of a sequence X converges to a point in I => The sequence X in I converges to a point in I
?

The Attempt at a Solution


I think yes because the subsequence is the sequence itself minus a few finite number of points. Since they both are in the same set I, I can't see why not.
 
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A subsequence can be lacking an infinite number of points in I. If a sequence is 1,-1,1,-1,1,-1,...

the subsequence

1,1,1,1,1...

certainly converges. You can tell me what you think about the statement
 
Good example.

The question should be
Does
A subsequence of a sequence X converges to a point in I <= The sequence X in I converges to a point in I
?

Now it should be yes.

But we genearlly refer to seq and subseq as containing an infinite number of points.
 
If [tex]f:\mathbb{N}\rightarrow I[/tex] is a sequence in a set I, then a subsequence of f is a sequence of the form h = f o g, where [tex]g:\mathbb{N}\rightarrow\mathbb{N}[/tex] is a strictly increasing sequence of natural numbers.

I like to think of g as a discriminating function that picks which guys from f it wants in its kickball team.. or which girls does the Maharajah wants in its harem, or... any such pictorial analogy to remember the definition.
 
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pivoxa15 said:
The question should be
Does
A subsequence of a sequence X converges to a point in I <= The sequence X in I converges to a point in I
?

Now it should be yes.
And it goes farther too: The sequence X in I converges to a point y in I <=> Every subsequence of X converges to y.
 
quasar987 said:
And it goes farther too: The sequence X in I converges to a point y in I <=> Every subsequence of X converges to y.

It a little subtle. Every is essential. I didn't have every in my original statement so no if and only if condition.
 

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