Convergence or divergence of log series

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the convergence or divergence of the series involving the logarithmic function, specifically the series SUM (sigma) log [(n+1)/n]. Participants are exploring the implications of the logarithmic function in the context of series convergence tests.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are questioning the variable of summation and the bounds of the series, with some suggesting that the series is summed from 1 to infinity. There is discussion on the behavior of the term (n+1)/n as n approaches infinity and its implications for the logarithmic function. Various convergence tests and comparisons, including the Harmonic Series and Taylor expansion, are mentioned as potential approaches.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions for exploring the problem further. Some have proposed using Taylor expansion for lower bounds and comparing the series to known convergent or divergent series. There is no explicit consensus on the method to be used, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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There is a lack of clarity regarding the bounds of the series, and participants are considering the implications of including or excluding certain values in the summation. The original poster expressed uncertainty about how to approach the logarithmic function within the series.

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Homework Statement



I'm supposed to evaluate the following series or show if it diverges:

SUM (sigma) log [(x+1)/x]

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Drawing a blank...:confused:

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm unsure how to start this. We've gone over all sorts of tests for convergence (ratio, comparison, p-series, etc), but I'm not sure what to do with the log function. A push in the right direction would be appreciated!

Thanks.
 
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What are you summing over (I assume x, though x usually denotes a continuous variables, and indices like k or n are commonly used for discrete summation) and what are your bounds (if x = 0 is included in the summation you immediately see that it diverges, but if x \ge 1 this is not immediately obvious).
In other words, please be a little more specific.
 
I recalled this incorrectly, it's log[(n+1)/n] and no bounds were given, though I would assume it's 1 to infinity as zero would diverge.
 
ok n=1, n->infinity, before you think about the log, what happens to the (n+1)/n ? figure that out first then you can figure out if the log of that converges/diferges
 
as n goes to infinity, (n+1)n will converge to 1, right? and log (1) is zero.
 
Right, but that just tells you the series CAN converge, for this problem I'm thinking L'Hospital's rule due to the log.
A nice series to compare with is the Harmonic Series, 1/x, since (n+1)/n = 1 +1/n.

Edit: sry comparing with 1/x doesn't work >< Just woke up and automatically did L'Hospital's rule without checking if the comparison gave an indeterminate form.

EditEdit: ok it does work >.> it gives you 0/0 lol
 
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I suggest obtaining a lower bound on log [(x+1)/x] = log [1+1/x] by use of a Taylor expansion, and then comparing the sum of logs with the sum of that lower bound.
 
It's pretty easy to find a closed form for the partial sum.

Big stinking giveaway hint:
\log \frac{a}{b}=\log{a}-\log{b}
 
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