Conversion from Parametric to Cartesian

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The discussion revolves around converting parametric equations into Cartesian form. The original poster presents three sets of parametric equations and seeks to understand discrepancies between their Cartesian plots and the original parametric forms.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive Cartesian equations from given parametric forms, expressing confusion over the resulting plots. They explore trigonometric identities and substitutions but encounter inconsistencies.
  • Some participants question specific steps taken in the transformations, suggesting errors in algebraic manipulation and assumptions about the relationships between the variables.
  • Further attempts to convert another set of parametric equations lead to additional questions about the validity of the initial approach and the correctness of the transformations used.

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Participants note potential issues with graphing software and the need for careful attention to the definitions of trigonometric functions used in the transformations. The original poster expresses a desire to understand where their reasoning may have faltered without seeking direct answers.

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Homework Statement



Reduce these parametric functions to a single cartesian equation:

[tex] $\displaylines{<br /> x = at^2 \cr <br /> y = 2at \cr} $<br /> <br /> $\displaylines{<br /> x = 3{\mathop{\rm Sec}\nolimits} \left( \alpha \right) \cr <br /> y = 5{\mathop{\rm Tan}\nolimits} \left( \alpha \right) \cr} $<br /> <br /> $\displaylines{<br /> x = t^2 + 1 \cr <br /> y = t^2 + t \cr} $[/tex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



For Q1, I think I got the hang of it... in that the plots of my cartesian and the paremetric are identical:

[tex] $\displaylines{<br /> x = at^2 \cr <br /> y = 2at \cr <br /> \cr <br /> t^2 = {x \over a} \cr <br /> t = \sqrt {{x \over a}} \cr <br /> \cr <br /> y = 2a\sqrt {{x \over a}} \cr} $<br /> [/tex]

For Q2 I thought I had it solved with a trigonometric identity, but the plots look different:

[tex] $\displaylines{<br /> x = 3{\mathop{\rm Sec}\nolimits} \left( \alpha \right) \cr <br /> y = 5{\mathop{\rm Tan}\nolimits} \left( \alpha \right) \cr <br /> \cr <br /> {\mathop{\rm Sec}\nolimits} ^2 \left( \alpha \right) = 1 + {\mathop{\rm Tan}\nolimits} ^2 \left( \alpha \right) \cr <br /> \left( {{\textstyle{1 \over 3}}x} \right)^2 = 1 + \left( {{\textstyle{1 \over 5}}y} \right)^2 \cr <br /> {\textstyle{1 \over 9}}x^2 = 1 + {\textstyle{1 \over {25}}}y^2 \cr <br /> {\textstyle{1 \over {25}}}y^2 = {\textstyle{1 \over 9}}x^2 - 1 \cr <br /> y^2 = {\textstyle{{25} \over 9}}x^2 - 1 \cr <br /> y = \pm \sqrt {{\textstyle{{25} \over 9}}x^2 - 1} \cr} $<br /> [/tex]

Finally, Q3 seems deceptivly simple, but again, the plot doesn't match the original:

[tex] $\displaylines{<br /> x = t^2 + 1 \cr <br /> y = t^2 + t \cr <br /> \cr <br /> t^2 = x - 1 \cr <br /> y = x - 1 + \sqrt {x - 1} \cr} $<br /> [/tex]

I'm not looking for answers, just to find out where I've gone wrong.

Thanks
 
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Q2. You've made an error when multiplying through by 25.. you should have a -25 on the RHS of the penultimate line.

Q3. I'm not sure what you've done, but I'd try solving one of the parametric equations for t, but the quadratic formula, then subbing into the other equation.
 
Thanks. I got those questions correct.

Further on I'm faced with converting this into cartesian:
[tex]$\displaylines{<br /> x = 2{\mathop{\rm Cot}\nolimits} \left( t \right) \cr <br /> y = 2{\mathop{\rm Sin}\nolimits} ^2 \left( t \right) \cr} $[/tex]​

I tried having a go using this:

[tex]$\displaylines{<br /> x = 2{\mathop{\rm Cot}\nolimits} \left( t \right) \cr <br /> t = {\mathop{\rm Tan}\nolimits} ^{ - 1} \left( {{\textstyle{2 \over x}}} \right) \cr <br /> y = 2{\mathop{\rm Sin}\nolimits} ^2 \left( {{\mathop{\rm Tan}\nolimits} ^{ - 1} \left( {{\textstyle{2 \over x}}} \right)} \right) \cr} $[/tex]​

...but the plot is totally different.

I was able to solve it eventually using

[tex]$\displaylines{<br /> 1 + {\mathop{\rm Cot}\nolimits} ^2 \left( t \right) = {\mathop{\rm Cosec}\nolimits} ^2 \left( t \right) \cr <br /> 1 + \left( {{\textstyle{1 \over 2}}x} \right)^2 = \left( {{\textstyle{y \over 2}}} \right)^{ - 1} \cr} $p[/tex]​

But can you explain why my initial attempt failed?

Thanks
 
Well, when you divide by 2, you should have x/2, not 2/x
 
Tedjn said:
Well, when you divide by 2, you should have x/2, not 2/x

Note it's Cot, not Tan. So I inverted the argument for Tan^-1. Otherwise it would have been ArcCot(x/2)
 
Sorry, I see that now. It's probably some quirk of the graphing software. The first set should work out to the second set if you get rid of the inverse trig functions.

[tex]y = 2\sin^2\left[\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{2}{x}\right)\right][/tex]

From a picture of the right triangle, we know that

[tex]\sin t = \pm\frac{2}{\sqrt{4+x^2}} \implies \sin^2 t = \frac{4}{4 + x^2}[/tex]

Then,

[tex]\frac{y}{2} = \frac{4}{4+x^2}\longrightarrow<br /> \left(\frac{y}{2}\right)^{-1} = \frac{4+x^2}{4} = 1 + \frac{x^2}{4} = 1 + \left(\frac{1}{2}x\right)^2[/tex]
 

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