Conversion of a function to a power series

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The discussion revolves around the representation of the function f(x) = 1/(3-x) and its conversion to a power series. Participants explore different forms and intervals of convergence for power series representations of functions, particularly focusing on f(x) = 1/(x-2) and its relation to geometric series.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods to express the function as a power series, questioning the validity of different representations and the intervals of convergence. Some express confusion regarding the relationships between the functions and their series expansions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the connections between different forms of the function and their respective power series. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions for convergence and the nature of geometric series, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or representation.

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There is confusion regarding the correct form of the function being analyzed, with participants noting discrepancies in the stated functions. This ambiguity may affect the interpretation of the power series representations being discussed.

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Given the function f(x) = 1/(3-x) it can be represented in a power series by 1/3∑(x/3)n but is there any restriction on saying ∑(x-2)n except for x = 2? In the first case, R = 3 but the second case, R = 1 and on different intervals (i.e. (-3,3) and the other is (1,3). I just simply used the expression for 1/(1-r) = ∑rn and let r = x - 2.

So, any problems? I understand it's a less efficient method to solve this problem but I guess I'm just trying to see different ways to represent the same function.
 
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It's hard to understand what you're asking.
 
! said:
It's hard to understand what you're asking.

Does f(x) = 1/(3-x) = (1/3)∑(x/3)n for (-3,3)?
 
MathewsMD said:
Does f(x) = 1/(3-x) = (1/3)∑(x/3)n for (-3,3)?

If the sum is taken for all nonnegative n, then yes. For the infinite series converges to a/(1 - r) where a is the first term and r is the common ratio with |r| < 1.
 
MathewsMD, apparently I wasn't the only one who was confused by your question. How is this question related to what you asked about ##\sum (x - 2)^n##? For fixed x, that series is also a geometric series that converges if |x - 2| < 0; i.e., if 1 < x < 3. And x certainly can equal 2 here.
 
Mark44 said:
MathewsMD, apparently I wasn't the only one who was confused by your question. How is this question related to what you asked about ##\sum (x - 2)^n##? For fixed x, that series is also a geometric series that converges if |x - 2| < 0; i.e., if 1 < x < 3. And x certainly can equal 2 here.

Hi, sorry for the ambiguity. I was just in a rush yesterday and will try to clear things up now.

So, I want to express the given function, ## f(x) = \frac {1}{x-2} ## as a power series.

Now, ## \frac {a}{1-r} = ∑_{n=0}^∞ar^n ; -1 < r < 1##

There is one simple method for solving this question, and that is simply dividing f(x) by 2 and then just rearranging. If you need more explanation for this part, just let me know. What I want to do is represent the function in a different way.

Representing the function as ## f(x) = \frac {1}{1 - (x+3)} ; r = x + 3; a = 1, f(x) = ∑_{n=0}^∞ (x+3)^n ; -3 < x < 3##

Now sorry if I my response is still a little convoluted or if my derivation seems trivial and useless. I would just like to know if this is incorrect for any reason. I haven't seen a power series changed in a similar form before, it's always just been dividing out the constant (e.g. 2 in this case) to put the denominator of f(x) in the form of ##1 - ax##. I know this is a much more useful method that will help with more advanced problems, but my main concern is just to understand the concept and figuring out different ways to represent these functions and to see if my understanding is correct. If I'm not mistaken, there are infinite ways to represent the same function, and I am just wondering if mine is correct. Thanks!
 
MathewsMD said:
Hi, sorry for the ambiguity. I was just in a rush yesterday and will try to clear things up now.

So, I want to express the given function, ## f(x) = \frac {1}{x-2} ## as a power series.

Now, ## \frac {a}{1-r} = ∑_{n=0}^∞ar^n ; -1 < r < 1##

There is one simple method for solving this question, and that is simply dividing f(x) by 2 and then just rearranging. If you need more explanation for this part, just let me know. What I want to do is represent the function in a different way.

Representing the function as ## f(x) = \frac {1}{1 - (x+3)} ; r = x + 3; a = 1, f(x) = ∑_{n=0}^∞ (x+3)^n ; -3 < x < 3##

Now sorry if I my response is still a little convoluted or if my derivation seems trivial and useless. I would just like to know if this is incorrect for any reason. I haven't seen a power series changed in a similar form before, it's always just been dividing out the constant (e.g. 2 in this case) to put the denominator of f(x) in the form of ##1 - ax##. I know this is a much more useful method that will help with more advanced problems, but my main concern is just to understand the concept and figuring out different ways to represent these functions and to see if my understanding is correct. If I'm not mistaken, there are infinite ways to represent the same function, and I am just wondering if mine is correct. Thanks!

##\frac {1}{1 - (x+3)}## isn't equal to ##\frac {1}{x-2}##. There are an infinite number of ways to represent the same function as a geometric series. You can expand around any x value. If they just say "power series" they probably want you to expand it around x=0, i.e. as a series in powers of x. To do that write ##\frac {1}{x-2}=\frac{-1/2}{1-(x/2)}##.
 
Dick said:
##\frac {1}{1 - (x+3)}## isn't equal to ##\frac {1}{x-2}##. There are an infinite number of ways to represent the same function as a geometric series. You can expand around any x value. If they just say "power series" they probably want you to expand it around x=0, i.e. as a series in powers of x. To do that write ##\frac {1}{x-2}=\frac{-1/2}{1-(x/2)}##.

Sorry, I meant ## f(x) = \frac {1}{2-x} ##
 
MathewsMD said:
Sorry, I meant ## f(x) = \frac {1}{2-x} ##

##\frac {1}{1 - (x+3)}## isn't equal to ## \frac {1}{2-x} ## either. You've got to start getting the algebra right.
 
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Dick said:
##\frac {1}{1 - (x+3)}## isn't equal to ## \frac {1}{2-x} ## either. You've got to start getting the algebra right.

Representing the function as ## f(x) = \frac {1}{1 - (x - 1)} ; r = x - 1; a = 1, f(x) = ∑_{n=0}^∞ (x-1)^n ; 0 < x < 2##

Third time's the charm. My mistake :)

Anything wrong with this? And yes, I understand what you did and it definitely makes sense solving with that method as well (it's more applicable to more advanced problems). I was just wondering if there's anything mathematically incorrect in my posted work?
 
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MathewsMD said:
Given the function f(x) = 1/(3-x) ...

MathewsMD said:
Hi, sorry for the ambiguity. I was just in a rush yesterday and will try to clear things up now.

So, I want to express the given function, ## f(x) = \frac {1}{x-2} ## as a power series.

MathewsMD said:
Representing the function as ## f(x) = \frac {1}{1 - (x - 1)} ; r = x - 1; a = 1, f(x) = ∑_{n=0}^∞ (x-1)^n ; 0 < x < 2##

Third time's the charm. My mistake :)

Anything wrong with this? And yes, I understand what you did and it definitely makes sense solving with that method as well (it's more applicable to more advanced problems). I was just wondering if there's anything mathematically incorrect in my posted work?
I'm really confused.

You started of with the "given function" as f(x) = 1/(x - 2).

In a later post, you said the "given function" was f(x) = 1/(3 - x).

In your last post, you have f(x) = 1/(1 - (x - 1)), which is not equal to either of the functions above. 1/(1 - (x - 1)) = 1/(2 - x).

So, what exactly is the function you're working with?
 

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