Converting d(γmu) to du: A Relativity Integration Simplification

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of the differential d(γmu) into a form involving du, within the context of relativity. Participants express confusion regarding this conversion and its implications in their calculations.

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  • Participants share their attempts to understand the conversion, with one suggesting a specific expression for x in terms of u. Others inquire about the steps following this conversion and how to solve for u.

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Some participants have made progress in their understanding, with one indicating they figured out the conversion. However, questions remain regarding the methods used to solve for u and the subsequent integration steps.

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There is a recurring theme of participants relying on their prior knowledge of differentials and integration, indicating a potential gap in understanding the specific context of relativity as it applies to this problem.

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I simply don't understand this conversion. I've only worked with du, dx, dy, etc. before. How do you change a d(γmu) into some kind of du?
(This is in the contest of relativity, although this info is not essential i think)

Thanks! :)
 

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sparkle123 said:
I simply don't understand this conversion. I've only worked with du, dx, dy, etc. before. How do you change a d(γmu) into some kind of du?
(This is in the contest of relativity, although this info is not essential i think)

Thanks! :)
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What is \displaystyle \frac{d}{du}\left(\frac{mu}{\sqrt{1-u^2/c^2}}\right)\ ?
 
sparkle123 said:
I simply don't understand this conversion. I've only worked with du, dx, dy, etc. before. How do you change a d(γmu) into some kind of du?
(This is in the contest of relativity, although this info is not essential i think)

Thanks! :)
Let x = \frac{{mu}}{{\sqrt {1 - \frac{{{u^2}}}{{c_{0}^2}}} }}

Then solve for u.
 
Figured it out thanks! :))
 
Wait dimension10, how do you solve it your way, after getting u = x/sqrt(m^2+x^2/c^2)?
 
sparkle123 said:
Wait dimension10, how do you solve it your way, after getting u = x/sqrt(m^2+x^2/c^2)?

\begin{array}{l}<br /> {x^2} = \frac{{{m^2}{u^2}}}{{1 - \frac{{{u^2}}}{{{c_0}^2}}}}\\<br /> {x^2} = \frac{{{m^2}}}{{\frac{1}{{{u^2}}} - \frac{1}{{{c_0}^2}}}}\\<br /> \frac{{{m^2}}}{{{x^2}}} + \frac{1}{{c_0^2}} = \frac{1}{{{u^2}}}\\<br /> {u^2} = \frac{1}{{\frac{{{m^2}}}{{{x^2}}} + \frac{1}{{c_0^2}}}}\\<br /> {u^2} = \frac{{c_0^2{x^2}}}{{{m^2}c_0^2 + {x^2}}}\\<br /> u = \frac{{{c_0}x}}{{\sqrt {{m^2}c_0^2 + {x^2}} }}\\<br /> ...\\<br /> \int {\frac{{{c_0}x}}{{\sqrt {{m^2}c_0^2 + {x^2}} }}{\rm{d}}x} = \int {m{{\left( {1 - \frac{{{x^2}}}{{c_0^2}}} \right)}^{ - \frac{3}{2}}}x{\rm{ d}}u} = \int {m{{\left( {1 - \frac{{{u^2}}}{{c_0^2}}} \right)}^{ - \frac{3}{2}}}u{\rm{ d}}u} <br /> \end{array}
 
Thanks a lot!
 

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