Cool Air Tactics: Fan & Ice Cubes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of using a fan and ice cubes to create cool air, exploring the placement of ice cubes in relation to the fan. Participants consider practical applications and theoretical implications of this setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests placing ice cubes in front of the fan for cooling, but notes that the air may not get significantly cooler this way.
  • Another participant mentions the concept of a swamp cooler as an alternative method for cooling a room, but points out its limitations in humid climates.
  • There is a question about whether placing ice cubes behind the fan would allow the fan to suck in colder air, leading to a discussion on airflow dynamics.
  • Participants discuss that a fan pushes a coherent stream of air in front of it and pulls from a diffuse area behind, indicating that placing ice in front ensures air passes over it.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential risk of drawing in melted water from behind the fan, which could damage the fan.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the optimal placement of ice cubes, with some supporting the front placement for effective cooling and others questioning the efficacy of this method. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the dependence on climate conditions for the effectiveness of cooling methods discussed, particularly regarding swamp coolers.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in practical cooling solutions, particularly in home or experimental settings, may find this discussion relevant.

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I am trying to figure out how to get cool air. Say, if I have a fan and ice cubes. Should the ice cubes be in front of the fan(air blowing at them) or back of the fan (fan sucking).
When I did it, I couldn't feel the difference.
 
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They should be in front of the fan, but you probably won't get the air much cooler that way. There is no efficient way to get the air to blow through the ice cubes.
 
If you are trying to cool a room (rather than work out a physics problem) lookup swamp-cooler
 
...depending on your climate, a swamp cooler might not be a viable option. It is only helpful in dry climates.
 
Russ, why should they be in front? Air hits them and cools down?
Wouldn't the fan suck colder air if they were placed in the back.
 
likephysics said:
Russ, why should they be in front? Air hits them and cools down?
Wouldn't the fan suck colder air if they were placed in the back.
A fan will push a pretty coherent stream of air in front of it, but pull from a diffuse area behind it. So if you want to ensure the air is actually passing over the ice, you need to put it in front (unless you use a duct).
 
russ_watters said:
A fan will push a pretty coherent stream of air in front of it, but pull from a diffuse area behind it. So if you want to ensure the air is actually passing over the ice, you need to put it in front (unless you use a duct).

That makes sense!
I might also offer that if the ice cubes are put behind the fan, that there is a possibility of drawing in melted water drops large enough to short-out the fan.
 
russ, that makes lot of sense.
Palladin, thanks for the warning. I don't think my fan is that powerful, it is still a possibility.
It would be a cool way to destroy a fan.
 

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