How to move cool air down through a house?

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The discussion revolves around strategies for effectively moving cool air from an upper floor to a lower floor in a house, particularly in the context of high outdoor temperatures. Participants explore various methods, including fan placement and the use of evaporative coolers, while considering the impact of environmental conditions on air circulation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using fans in windows to draw cool air down but questions the effectiveness of their current setup.
  • Another participant clarifies that fans do not suck air but blow it, and discusses the role of convection in heat exchange.
  • A participant mentions the importance of having powerful fans directing air down the stairs to improve cooling results.
  • There is a suggestion to repurpose existing ductwork with blowers to route cool air during summer.
  • A participant shares their successful experience using a swamp cooler and proposes placing it in an upstairs window to displace warmer air below.
  • One idea involves engineering a long hose attached to a fan to facilitate air movement between floors.
  • Another participant notes that closing other windows and doors can help draw ambient outside air into the upper room, but cautions about heat flow from outside affecting the cooling process.
  • A participant reflects on the effectiveness of their evaporative cooler in cooling their room and expresses a desire for a more moderate temperature throughout the house.
  • There is a suggestion that effective circulation requires two paths between levels, with a focus on starting a convection loop and the placement of exhaust outlets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the best methods for moving cool air, with no consensus reached on a single effective solution. Various strategies are proposed, and some participants challenge or refine earlier suggestions without agreeing on a definitive approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention environmental factors such as outdoor temperature and humidity, which may influence the effectiveness of the proposed methods. The discussion also highlights the need for careful consideration of airflow paths and the impact of heat from outside sources.

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so I am trying to move cool air from my room on the third floor to the living room on the second floor, but it does not seem to be working as well as I would like it to. I have the windows open and fans pointing "in" upstairs while downstairs they are pointing "out". Do I need fans directing downstairs? thanks in advance.
 
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Fans do not "suck in" air. They can only blow air in a specific direction, but this air comes from everywhere around them. Unless your fans upstairs are outside the window (or in the window and you close the rest of the window), they won't do much.

How warm is it where? If there is a large temperature difference between the house and outside, convection can do the heat exchange on its own - but then you also get in hot air on both floors. A purely internal heat exchange could work as well - fans mixing the air at the staircase.
 
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so I do have the fans in the window, I live in aurora,co and it is suppose to get to 90 today. So it sounds like if I have powerful fans directing the air on the stairs down to the windows in the living room I may get some better results? thanks
 
Do you have a furnace and duct work running throughout the house? If so, you could re-purpose the duct work during the summer to route cool air by using blowers...
 
Aurora is located in a high plains dessert - has low humidity. I have successfully used a swamp cooler that operates by adding moisture to the air. Locate a portable (Home Depot or Lowes) in an upstairs window and open a window on lowest level. Moist air will displace drier air below. Works well spring through fall. A more expensive but great fix is to locate one on the roof with a water supply and have ducts on the upper floor. In fall you can reverse air flow and suck cooler air to the roof. But an expensive install, usually. - Jim
 
With a bit of engineering: attach a long hose to the fan, run it from upstairs to the lower floor, close the windows.
 
As long as you have all other windows and doors shut except for the two with the fans then you should be drawing ambient outside air into the upstairs room, cooling it, delivering it to the bottom floor and a out through your lower window just as you expect.

Possibly, the heat flow into the lower floor due to the higher outside air temperature and and sun radiant heat conducting through downstairs exterior walls and windows may be exceeding the rate at which your fans can circulate the cooled air to the bottom floor.
 
So the room is so cool because of the evaporative cooler that I have in there (70), and while I was not expecting that it could cool the entire house down I was hoping for somewhere in the 75-78 range, but it is definitely better than the 99 outside. Thanks for the advice
 
You need two paths between the two levels if you want effective circulation. As mentioned above, you will need at least one duct - the stair well can supply the other path. Cool air from an upstairs window is slightly more dense than the warm air downstairs. Given a bit of encouragement you can start a convection loop but you give things a chance to get started. You can get a bubble of cool air in the 'out' tube that will sit on top of the warm air beneath. An extractor fan at the bottom of the 'heat out' tube would probably be better than at the top because of the directed output flow. Once convection has started, it may even sustain itself as the walls of the exhaust tube warm up.
Careful choice of where you put the exhaust outlet. Away from the prevailing wind.
 

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