Copenhagen Interpretation of Sleep / Unseen brain?

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The discussion centers on the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, particularly regarding the nature of wave function collapse during sleep and the measurement problem. Participants assert that collapse is not caused by consciousness and that decoherence, resulting from interactions with the environment, leads to apparent collapse. The consensus is that while there is no universally accepted resolution to the measurement problem, many physicists consider it non-problematic in practical terms. The conversation also touches on various interpretations of quantum mechanics, including Wigner's friend and the implications of decoherence on our understanding of quantum states.

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Or maybe a better way of asking... Are you saying that the "measurement problem", as still viewed by Copenhagen, ultimately suggests a fundamental role of the observer?
 
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Feeble Wonk said:
Or maybe a better way of asking... Are you saying that the "measurement problem", as still viewed by Copenhagen, ultimately suggests a fundamental role of the observer?

You have to understand observer in QM is not necessarily an organic conscious observer. In modern times its anything that causes decoherence ie is an interaction. With that in mind in Copenhagen observer is absolutely fundamental.

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Bill
 
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Thanks. That had been my understanding. I just wasn't certain that's what Atyy had actually meant.
 

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