Copenhagen Interpretation of Sleep / Unseen brain?

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The discussion centers on the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, particularly regarding the nature of wave function collapse during sleep and the measurement problem. It asserts that wave function collapse is not caused by consciousness, and decoherence occurs due to interactions with the environment, making the system appear classical. The conversation highlights that while decoherence does not resolve the measurement problem, it leads to the acceptance of outcomes without requiring further explanation among most physicists. Various interpretations exist, with some physicists considering the measurement problem a non-issue, while others, including notable figures, view it as significant. Ultimately, the consensus is that the accepted interpretation among working physicists is to focus on practical outcomes rather than delve into philosophical debates.
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Or maybe a better way of asking... Are you saying that the "measurement problem", as still viewed by Copenhagen, ultimately suggests a fundamental role of the observer?
 
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Feeble Wonk said:
Or maybe a better way of asking... Are you saying that the "measurement problem", as still viewed by Copenhagen, ultimately suggests a fundamental role of the observer?

You have to understand observer in QM is not necessarily an organic conscious observer. In modern times its anything that causes decoherence ie is an interaction. With that in mind in Copenhagen observer is absolutely fundamental.

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Bill
 
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Thanks. That had been my understanding. I just wasn't certain that's what Atyy had actually meant.
 

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