Copper resistance thermometer - temperature

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The problem involves a copper wire used as a resistance thermometer, where the resistance changes with temperature. The original resistance at 20 degrees Celsius is given, along with the resistance at a higher temperature when immersed in an oil bath. The temperature coefficient of resistivity is also provided, and the task is to determine the temperature of the oil based on these values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the temperature coefficient of resistivity and resistivity itself, questioning the relevant equations for relating temperature to resistance. Some participants clarify that the temperature coefficient is not the same as resistivity and suggest looking up the relationship in textbooks.

Discussion Status

Participants have explored the relevant equations and one has successfully derived an equation relating resistance to temperature. There is acknowledgment of the correct approach to solving the problem, and a participant has provided a calculation for the temperature of the oil based on the derived equation.

Contextual Notes

There is a note regarding the units of the temperature coefficient of resistivity, emphasizing its per degree Celsius nature. The original poster's confusion about the relationship between temperature coefficient and resistivity indicates a need for clarification on these concepts.

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Homework Statement



a piece of copper wire (rho_20 = 1.7*10^-8 ohm-m) is being used as a resistance thermometer.At 20 degrees celsius, the wire is known to have a resistance of 170 ohms. when the wire is immersed in a hot oil bath, its resistance increases to 173.4 ohms. if the temperature coefficient of resistivity is 10^-3, what is the temperature of the oil?

assume that expansion of the copper negligible

Homework Equations



current density J = nqv_d where n is electron density, q is charge, v_d is drift velocity

J = sigma*E where sigma is conductivity, E is electric field

J = E/rho where rho is resistivity

The Attempt at a Solution



i really don't know where to start, is the 'temperature coefficient of resistivity' the same as rho?

what equation do i use that relates temperature to resistance/rho? does it have anything to do with work, as work and heat have the same unit, joules?

help appreciated..
 
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is the 'temperature coefficient of resistivity' the same as rho?
No. Go through any textbook or Hyper Physics site. You will get the relation between the resistance of the conductor and change in temperature of the conductor.
All your relevant equations are irrelevant!
 
okay found the equation:

R = R_reference [1 + alpha(T - T_reference)]
173.4 = 170( 1 + 10^-3(T - 20)]
(173.4/170) - 1 + 0.02 = 10^-3T
0.04/(10^-3) = T
T = 40 degrees celsius

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_12/6.html
 
Looks good.

FYI on units, the temperature coefficient of resistivity is 10^-3 per degree C,
or 10^-3 / C.
 

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