How to Calculate Moles and Mass in a Copper Sulphate Pentahydrate Sample?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the number of moles and mass of a sample of copper sulfate pentahydrate (CuSO4•5H2O) based on a given number of formula units. The scope includes homework-related calculations and the application of relevant equations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • The initial post presents a calculation attempt for the number of moles and mass using the formula n=N/Na and m=nM, with specific values for N and M.
  • Some participants affirm the correctness of the calculations but express opinions on the terminology "formula units," suggesting it may be unnecessary and equating it to "number of molecules."
  • A later post questions whether the number of moles calculated in part a) would be the same as the answer to a different part of the question regarding the moles of the substance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the correctness of the calculations presented, but there is disagreement regarding the terminology used and its necessity. The question about the moles in relation to another part of the question remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the implications of using "formula units" versus "molecules," and the discussion does not resolve whether the moles calculated are indeed the same for the other part of the question.

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Homework Statement


A sample contains 2.5x1020 formula units of CuSO4•5H2O...
a) calculate the number of moles present in this sample
b) calculate the mass of this sample

N=2.5x1020
M=249.69g/mol

2. Homework Equations


n=N/Na
m=nM

The Attempt at a Solution



a)
n=N/Na
n=2.5x1020/6.02x1023
n=0.000415mol

b)
m=nM
m=(0.000415mol)(249.69g/mol)
m=0.10369g

Am I correct?
 
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Yes but that looks correct. I have got through a lifetime without ever hearing the term 'formula units'. Unnecessary IMO and I expect you will forget it, like those formulae you used. All it means is 'number of molecules' right? Which would see you through. I expect this pedantry is because CuSO4.5H2O isn't strictly a molecule but, oof, it's just like one for this purpose.
 
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Yes but that looks correct. I have got through a lifetime without ever hearing the term 'formula units'. Unnecessary IMO and I expect you will forget it, like those formulae you used. All it means is 'number of molecules' right? Which would see you through. I expect this pedantry is because CuSO4.5H2O isn't strictly a molecule but, oof, it's just like one for this purpose.
There was another part to this question and it asked how many moles of this substance are in this sample? Would that not just be the same as the answer to a)?
 
Yes
 

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