Core material for high power high frequency coil/solenoid

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The discussion centers on the challenges of selecting core materials for high-power, high-frequency coils or solenoids, specifically for applications requiring magnetic fields up to 1 Tesla (1T) at frequencies ranging from tens of kilohertz to hundreds of megahertz. Participants highlight that typical ferrite cores saturate at around 500-600 mT, making them unsuitable for high field strengths at elevated frequencies. Alternatives such as air cores are proposed, but they require extremely high currents, leading to practical issues like cooling. Suggestions include exploring materials from Ferroxcube and considering coil designs that utilize multiple smaller coils in parallel to manage impedance and current requirements.

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I'm not sure I understood your remark, well the field lines are going to loop back anyway whether there is a disc or isn't one I was just thinking that maybe I can put them to good use, although on a second thought if they experience another disc in their path that would in total lessen the strength of the field and I'm not sure whether the effect of cancelling circumferential currents would outweigh the extra mechanical complexity and other factors, probably not.
If I make a slotted disc I would have to use some low permeability (the same as air) composite material disc on which to attach the multiple thin and slotted copper fragments that join at the center for more structural integrity, this way I could sandwich the thin copper plate between the non-conductive discs to make one larger rotating structure.
 
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You need to specify exactly what you are trying to do. Many things are provably impossible. The design of magnetic machines is well defined. You need to shorten the magnetic field lines and you need to minimise the air gaps. You cannot get away with breaking the laws of physics by negotiating with the devil, or by getting a more expensive lawyer. Are you dreaming or engineering?
 
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