# Coriolis Effect

1. Jun 16, 2006

### restfull

According to Wikipedia, the shells of the Paris Gun fired over 120 km landed "1,343 meters (4,406 ft) to the right of where it would have hit if there were no Coriolis effect"...

Is it then correct to say that it would have deviated by 134.3 metres over 12 km, and 13.43 metres over 1.2 km etc etc?

i.e. is it correct that the drift due to the coriolis effect can be scaled down in this way, or is it non linear with respect to distance

2. Jun 16, 2006

### Bystander

No.

Only if the earth is a spinning cone. Of course it's non-linear.

3. Jun 17, 2006

### rcgldr

Ignoring aerodynamic effects on the shell, I would assume it would follow a sub-orbital path and land exactly where it should. It would only land to the "right" if the earth were treated as flat, and the shell was fired in a certain direction at a certain latitude. Sort of like the difference between rhumb line (consant headin) versus GPS (great circle) navigation.

Another issue would be the speed of the earths rotation and the speed, direction, latitude of the shell. Assuming the shell travels at a very high speed, than I assume that the fact the earth moves while the shell travels through the air isn't going to create that much difference in the flight.

or am I missing the point and there's some other factor in play here?

4. Jun 17, 2006

### HallsofIvy

Yes, you are missing the point: the "coriolis force" as cited in the original post. The cannon and shell in it have a certain speed eastward because they are attached to the earth and the earth is rotating to the east. If the cannon is fired southward, the impact area is also moving eastward but, in the northern hemisphere, faster- thus, the shell hits slightly to the west of "due south" of the cannon. It may not "create that much difference" but enough: 1346 meters in 120 km.

The amount of "rotation" at any latitude is proportional to the circumference and therefore the radius of the great circle around the earth at that latitude. That itself is radius of the earth times the sine of the "co-latitude" (angle measured from the north pole). The distance between the cannon and the point of impact is proportional to the difference in co-latitudes and so the rotation involves a sine function and is not linear.