I Coriolis force, real or just an illusion?

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The discussion centers on the nature of the Coriolis force and its implications for phenomena like hurricanes. Participants debate whether hurricanes truly rotate or if the observed rotation is merely an illusion due to perspective. It is clarified that hurricanes do rotate, but the Coriolis effect is not the primary cause of this rotation; rather, it is a result of complex fluid dynamics. The conversation also touches on the concept of inertial forces, emphasizing that the Coriolis force is a real effect observed in non-inertial frames, despite being labeled as "fictitious." Understanding these concepts is crucial for grasping the dynamics of rotating systems and the behavior of objects in motion relative to the Earth's rotation.
  • #91
Change in pressure said:
hause high 50km at equator

C(equator)=2r x 3.14 = 2 x 6371km x 3.14 =40 009km / 24h = 1667km/h

C(ball)= 2r x 3.14 = 2 x (6371km+50km) x3.14 =40323km /24h = 1680km/h
1680-1667=13km/h

top of hause travel 13km/h faster then bottom...

so this 13km/h is additional velocity which ball have in east direction


with this information we can calcualte how far east will ball hit the ground....
Given the time of fall, yes. Note that the proposed calculation does not depend at all on the radius of the earth. The 6371 cancels out.

But that's the inertial frame calculation. In the rotating frame there is no difference in velocity. The explanation for the deviation in the landing point derives from Coriolis instead.
 
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  • #92
Change in pressure said:
so this 13km/h is additional velocity which ball have in east direction

with this information we can calcualte how far east will ball hit the ground....
Approximately. For a more precise calculation in the inertial frame you would find the intersection of the elliptical orbit with the curved surface.
 

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