Cosmology Questions: Show Max Size in Expanding Universe w/o Quotes

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The discussion revolves around the continuity equation in cosmology and its implications for an expanding universe. The original poster seeks to understand how certain conditions on the equation of state parameter, ##\omega##, affect the maximum size of the universe and the behavior of energy density as the universe expands.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between pressure and energy density using the equation of state. There are attempts to derive expressions for acceleration and discuss the implications of different values of ##\omega## on the universe's expansion.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the application of the continuity equation and its implications for the behavior of the universe under different conditions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between ##\ddot{a}## and ##\omega##, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of these results.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made in the derivation of equations and the implications of negative pressure in cosmological models. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to apply the continuity equation in their reasoning.

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(a)[/B] From the continuity equation show that if ##P=\omega \rho## and ##\omega > -1/3##, show that an expanding universe will eventually reach a maximum size. Take ##k=1## (closed universe).

(b) Show that if ##\omega <-1##, the energy density ##\rho## will increase as the universe expands.

Homework Equations



Continuity equation: ##\dot{\rho}+3 \frac{\dot{a}}{a} (\rho +P)=0##

First Friedmann equation:

##\left( \frac{\dot{a}}{a} \right)^2 = \frac{8 \pi G}{3} \rho - \frac{k}{a^2}##

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(a)[/B] The hint says I must first solve for ##a## when ##\dot{a}=0## the first Friedmann equation and then consider ##\ddot{a}##. So solving that equation yields:

##a=\sqrt{\frac{3k}{8 \pi G \rho}}=\sqrt{\frac{3}{8 \pi G \rho}}##

To find ##\ddot{a}##, I substitute this into the second Friedmann equation:

##\frac{\ddot{a}}{a}= - \frac{4 \pi G}{3} (\rho + 3P) \implies \ddot{a} = \frac{-4 \pi G}{3} (\rho +3P). \sqrt{\frac{3}{8\pi G \rho}}##

Using the equation of state ##\rho=P/\omega##

##\ddot{a} = \frac{-4 \pi G}{3} ((P/\omega)+3P). \sqrt{\frac{3}{8\pi G (P/\omega)}}##

Do I need to show that we have positive acceleration (i.e. ##\ddot{a}>0##)? I think the equation above shows that acceleration is reduced as the universe expands (##\ddot{a}## decreases as P decreases).

Also, how can I use the continuity equation here? :confused:

(b) Do I need to be looking at the expression I found previously with negative P?

Any corrections or explanation is greatly appreciated.
 
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I would use the equation of state to remove P instead of ##\rho##. Pressure can be negative, energy density is not.
 
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Orodruin said:
I would use the equation of state to remove P instead of ##\rho##. Pressure can be negative, energy density is not.

Thank you. I got

##\ddot{a}=\frac{-4\pi G}{3}(\rho+3\rho \omega) \sqrt{\frac{3}{8 \pi G \rho}}##

So, for the case ##\omega = -1/3##, we have ##\ddot{a}=\sqrt{\frac{3}{8 \pi G \rho}}>0##. So the acceleration is always positive.

But how could we use the continuity equation in this case?
 
I assume you mean for ##\omega < -1/3##. Why would you not expect the continuity equation to hold? A component with negative pressure simply behaves very differently from ordinary matter or radiation. In particular, the case of ##\omega = -1## corresponds to a cosmological constant.

Also note that you have assumed that ##\dot a = 0## in your expression. This is not necessary to know the sign of the acceleration, but it will be true in particular when this holds.
 
No, I meant for the case when ##\omega >-1/3##. How does one explain that such a universe reaches a maximum size with reference to the continuity equation?
 
The second Friedmann equation is derived by inserting the continuity equation into the first Friedmann equation so when you are applying the second Friedmann equation you are implicitly assuming the continuity equation.

If ##\omega > -1/3## you have ##\ddot a \propto - \rho (1 + 3\omega) < 0## so deceleration. In order to have ##\ddot a## positive, ##1+3\omega## must be negative, i.e., ##1 + 3\omega < 0 \Rightarrow \omega < -1/3##. What is the nature of the local extrema (where ##\dot a## is zero) if the second derivative is negative?
 
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