Could Giant Movie Fans Stop a Hurricane?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical idea of using large fans or other methods to mitigate or stop hurricanes. Participants explore various unconventional approaches, including the use of giant fans, ice cubes, and even explosive devices, while considering the feasibility and implications of these ideas.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using large fans to counteract hurricane winds, questioning how many would be needed and whether they could be effective.
  • One participant suggests that a million fans, each requiring significant power, would create turbulence rather than provide protection.
  • Another idea involves dropping giant ice cubes into the hurricane to cool the water and potentially weaken it.
  • There is a suggestion that disturbing a portion of the hurricane could destabilize it, with an extreme hypothetical involving an H-bomb.
  • Some participants humorously reference the idea of using movie tropes or fictional solutions to address the hurricane problem.
  • A later reply discusses various theoretical methods proposed by scientists and inventors to alter hurricane dynamics, including using solar panels, surface films, and oceanic pumps.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and hypotheses, with no consensus on the effectiveness or feasibility of any proposed method. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on how to approach hurricane mitigation.

Contextual Notes

Participants' ideas are speculative and depend on various assumptions about the nature of hurricanes and the effectiveness of proposed interventions. There are also references to fictional portrayals of hurricane solutions, which may not reflect practical realities.

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You know those fans they use in movies to simulate wind? The really big powerful ones. How many of those would it take to counteract a hurricane? How many just to drop it down a category. I think you can get one to blow at hurricane force can't you? If cost wasn't a factor could enough of those fans be built and set up to stop a hurricane?
 
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Let's see what would do an inadequate job at saving Galveston.

The main part of the town is about 10 km long. Let's say the fans are 1m in diameter (I doubt it). So a huge rack of fans 10,000 at the base and say, what 100 m high? just to protect the buildings?

So, one million of these fans, on the order of 1000W each. A thousand megawatts of electricity to power them. And still, I doubt they'd stay up, and if they did, they would create a small pocket of extreme turbulence (as two masses of wind collide).

I say we call the Mythbusters!
 
maybe we could at least make a hurricane veer off and hit mexico instead of us?
 
How about dropping giant ice cubes into it to cool the water down?
 
That's what I always thought (well, actually stir the water so the cold water from the bottom comes to the top).
 
How do you think the hurricane got started in the first place?
 
When you drain a sink and that little whirlpool forms I know from experience that it doesn't take much to totally destabilize it. Can a hurricane be broken up if just a portion of it is disturbed? Say an H-bomb dropped into the middle. Forget about the radiation and the danger. Would it stop a hurricane?
 
jimmysnyder said:
How do you think the hurricane got started in the first place?

It was that F-ing butterfly in Australia.
 
Math Is Hard said:
How about dropping giant ice cubes into it to cool the water down?

That's a better idea, the high sea surface temperatures put a lot of energy in those storms.

How about tugging in a big chunk of (Ant)arctic sea ice into the gulf?
 
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:rolleyes: What about the wind getting sucked toward the fans from the other side?

I wouldn't want to be the one in charge of unplugging them after the storm surge hits either.
 
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Do you not know? all one needs is some actors from a B movie and the problem will be solved in 90 minuted, 30 is they shoot the actor playing the government science specialist.
 
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wolram said:
Do you not know? all one needs is some actors from a B movie and the problem will be solved in 90 minuted, 30 is they shoot the actor playing the government science specialist.

Each of the seven scientists/inventors and their theories are profiled in turn, and “tested” against a hurricane using computer-generated animation and graphics. There is Ross Hoffman, of Atmospheric and Environmental Research, who believes that zapping the top of a hurricane with solar panels in space will cause it to change course. Russian Meteorologist Vladamir Pudov wants to weaken hurricanes with a surface film on the ocean that will minimize the evaporation that feeds the monsters. Phil Kithil, an inventor of remote-sensing devices, demonstrates his prototype oceangoing-pump designed to neutralize hurricanes by bringing cold water from the depths to the surface. Meteorologist William Gray, the world’s most famous hurricane expert, proposes burning petroleum on barges in the path of hurricanes to slow them down. 15-year-old Jason Stanton, Tulsa’s top science fair award-winner, devised a concept that would cool the ocean’s surface in the path of oncoming hurricanes by using liquid nitrogen. Joe Golden has flown dozens of hurricane seeding flights probing the effects of seeding hurricanes with silver iodide in the hope of spurring convection of hurricane eye-walls and diminishing their force. And Robert Dickerson, a senior weapons researcher with a strong track record in laser design, thinks it might be possible to alter the dynamics of hurricanes by providing ionized pathways for discharge of electrical charges on one side or the other of hurricanes using vertically launched ion exhaust rocketry or by high intensity laser pulses.
http://www.cogentbenger.com/HowToStopAHurricane.htm

its a tv special.
 
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TheStatutoryApe said:
http://www.cogentbenger.com/HowToStopAHurricane.htm

its a tv special.

:smile: And here, I thought it would at least require Bruce Willis to work. :rolleyes:
 
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tribdog said:
It was that F-ing butterfly in Australia.

:smile: :smile:
 

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