Could I get some help determining the point of inflection of a function?

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The discussion revolves around determining the points of inflection for the function y = x^4 - 4x^3, focusing on the analysis of its second derivative.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss setting the second derivative equal to zero and evaluating trial points to check for changes in concavity. Questions arise about the correct method for determining concavity changes and verifying points of inflection.

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Some participants have offered guidance on checking the sign changes of the second derivative at specific points, while others express uncertainty about their findings and seek verification of their results. Multiple interpretations of the points of inflection are being explored.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the identification of points of inflection, particularly concerning the values derived from the second derivative and their graphical representation.

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Homework Statement



Determine the point of inflection on the graph y = x^4 - 4x^3


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The second derivative of this function is 12x^2 - 24x

I don't know how to show my work to get a point of inflection of (0,0)

How would I go about doing that?

Thank you for your help!
 
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Set the second derivative equal to zero and solve. You should get two values and then check a trial point on both sides of each of those in order to make sure that the concavity changes.
 
How do I do a trial to see the concavity changes?

I figured here my x values were x = 0 and x = 2. Do I plug these values into the second derivative to determine if the concavity changes?
 
Yes. At each of these points y'' should change from pos to neg or neg to pos.
 
I used the original function to check to see if it changes from positive to negative and vise versa, not y". When I used y" it told me x=2 is a point of inflection when I can see on the graph that it is not.
 
Oh I think I got it wrong. x=2 is a point of inflection. Could someone verify for me? I get (0,0) and (2,-16) as points of infection for this function.
 
Yes, the second derivative is, as you said, f&quot;(x)= 12x^2- 24x= 12x(x- 2). If x< 0, both x and x-2 are negative so f" is positive. If 0< x< 2, x is positive while x- 2 is still negative so f" is negative. If 2< x, both x and x-2 are positive so f" is positive. f" changes sign at both 0 and 2 so 0 and 2 are inflection points.
 

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