Could the Airbus grant Increase aerospace jobs?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the implications of a £28 million grant to Airbus and its potential impact on aerospace jobs. Participants explore the context of job security, management practices, and the broader industry landscape.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the grant could help secure close to 2000 jobs, suggesting a positive shift in the aerospace industry.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the effectiveness of the grant, describing it as a typical "backhander" for the aerospace sector.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that while the grant is beneficial, it represents only a small part of a larger issue within the industry.
  • An ex-employee of Airbus shares concerns about management practices, stating that redundancies were mishandled and that the workforce is over-managed, questioning the adequacy of the grant to truly safeguard jobs.
  • This participant also argues that the current staffing levels at Airbus are insufficient to maintain operations effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express mixed views on the grant's potential impact, with some seeing it as a positive development while others remain critical of Airbus's management and the broader implications for job security. No consensus is reached regarding the effectiveness of the grant.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight issues such as management practices, the nature of redundancies, and the actual operational needs of Airbus, indicating that the discussion is influenced by personal experiences and perceptions of the company's internal dynamics.

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Hi guys, :D

MORE good news it seems. was reading , http://www.themanufacturer.com/uk/content/9339/Airbus_get_" and it said Airbus was getting a 28 million pound grant.

This will keep close on 2000 http://www.careers-jobs.eu/aerospace-jobs" safe.

Could this be the sign that things are changing? I hope so, It will mean we can all breathe a little easier.
 
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28M GBP ($50M) for 2000 jobs - sounds about the typical backhander for aerospace.
 
True, but i suppose every lil bit helps ey? another small piece of a larger puzzle.
 
As an ex employee of Airbus, i watched a new factory being built on site, for the composite wing project(hence the 28 million),and at the same time, redundancies were being processed.
Talk about mis management. And the voluntary redundancies weren't all exactly voluntary. If you were unfortunate enough to have had any time off with illness, then you were getting compulsary. (zero payout, for under two years). So, a lot of people were forced out with their "voluntary" redundancy.
That place is saturated with management. 90% of those managers are really bad at their job.
It'll take more than 28 million to safeguard the remaining workforce (6500) approx.
Someone mentioned it would keep 2000 jobs safe. Airbus broughton could not operate at those manning levels.
 

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