Coulomb's Law and Electric Fields for a Triangle of Charges

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving three charges arranged in a triangle, specifically focusing on calculating the electric force and net electric field at the position of one of the charges located at the origin. The charges are given specific values, and the problem requires understanding of Coulomb's law and vector addition in the context of electric forces and fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the concept of counterclockwise direction in relation to the negative x-axis and how to visualize it. There are attempts to clarify the application of Coulomb's law for calculating forces and fields. Some participants question how to determine the resultant vector from multiple forces acting on the charge at the origin.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of vectors and the importance of direction in the calculations. There is a recognition of the need for clarity on angles and the resultant forces, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Participants express concerns about deadlines and the complexity of the problem, indicating a sense of urgency. There are mentions of specific numerical values and calculations that have been attempted, but some participants are struggling with the interpretation of results and the application of concepts.

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Homework Statement


Consider three charges q1 = 4.3 nC, q2 = 6.6 nC, and q3 = -2.3 nC, arranged in a triangle as shown below.

(a) What is the electric force acting on the charge at the origin?
N, ° counterclockwise from the negative x-axis

(b) What is the net electric field at the position of the charge at the origin?
N/C, ° counterclockwise from the negative x-axi
picture of problem
http://www.webassign.net/holtphys/p16-38alt.gif

Homework Equations


F=kQ1Q2/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution




which way is counterclockwise
 
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If it's counterclockwise from the negative x-axis, start from the left x-axis then go down.
 
gotpink74 said:

Homework Statement


Consider three charges q1 = 4.3 nC, q2 = 6.6 nC, and q3 = -2.3 nC, arranged in a triangle as shown below.

(a) What is the electric force acting on the charge at the origin?
N, ° counterclockwise from the negative x-axis

(b) What is the net electric field at the position of the charge at the origin?
N/C, ° counterclockwise from the negative x-axi
picture of problem
http://www.webassign.net/holtphys/p16-38alt.gif

Homework Equations


F=kQ1Q2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



which way is counterclockwise
Find a watch with a second hand. Set it at the origin, face up. The second hand has a clockwise rotation. the opposite rotation is counter-clockwise.
 
What is the net electric field at the position of the charge at the origin? How do you find this
 
You're essentially finding the force exerted by a charge on an infinitesimally small positive charge, which happens to be placed at the origin.

electric field = kQ/r^2
 
does the nC stand for 10^-9
 
Yes, the n stands for nano, 10^{-9}
 
how do you find part a.
 
Have you attempted to solve it?
 
  • #10
I have my last answers were
(a) What is the electric force acting on the charge at the origin?
2.838e-6 N, -8.901e-6 ° counterclockwise from the negative x-axis

(b) What is the net electric field at the position of the charge at the origin?
4.3e11 N/C, 3.87e12 ° counterclockwise from the negative x-axis BUT THEY WERE WRONG
 
  • #11
Could you post your work?
 
  • #12
(9*10^9)*(-2.3*10^(-9))*(4.3*10^(-9))/0.10^2

(9*10^9)*(4.3*10^(-9))*(6.6*10^(-9))/0.30^2 counterclockwise

net electric field
(9*10^9)*(4.3*10^(-9))/0.30^2
(9*10^9)*(4.3*10^(-9))/0.10^2
 
  • #13
someone please help this is due tomorrow and I cannot figure it out!
 
  • #14
For part a, you used Coulomb's law to find the force exerted by each charge on the charge at the origin. Have you paid attention to their directions? If you draw them as vectors, how would the resultant vector look?

And for electric field, you want to use the other charge as the Q you're using.
 
  • #15
do i need to then find the hypotunse
 
  • #16
i don't understand why I need a counterclockwise one arent they the same
 
  • #17
gotpink74 said:
i don't understand why I need a counterclockwise one arent they the same

You want to find the magnitude, and the direction (angle)
 
  • #18
Nothing has helped
 
  • #19
how do i find the direction angle I was given no number for an angle
 
  • #20
You should have the two perpendicular force vectors starting at the origin; they form a right triangle... If you have the two legs of a right triangle, you should be fine figuring out the rest of the parts of the triangle.
 
  • #21
i found the angles now i can't find the force and electric field on the orgin
 
  • #22
You posted Coulomb's law for the electric force. Draw a diagram and use vectors to represent the each force on the charge at the origin, then you should be able to get the magnitude of the resultant vector.
 
  • #23
do negatives work
 
  • #24
The magnitude of the vector is always positive; you have the angle to account for the direction.

However, the actual vector can be going in the negative direction.
 

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