Counting Integers of a Specific Form

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The discussion revolves around counting the number of integers that can be expressed in the form of \(\frac{a^4+b^4}{625}\), where \(a\) and \(b\) are positive integers less than or equal to 2015. The focus appears to be on exploring the properties and implications of this mathematical expression.

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  • Participants inquire about the number of integers that can be represented by the expression \(\frac{a^4+b^4}{625}\) for given constraints on \(a\) and \(b\).
  • Some participants express gratitude towards a user named greg1313 for contributions, indicating that there may have been helpful insights or calculations provided.
  • There are repeated acknowledgments of the mathematical fact that \(5^4 = 625\), which may relate to the form being discussed.

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The discussion does not appear to reach a consensus on the number of integers of the specified form, as the main inquiry remains open without definitive answers provided by participants.

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There are no explicit assumptions or limitations discussed, but the scope is confined to positive integers \(a\) and \(b\) within the specified range.

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Let $a, b \le 2015$ be positive integers. What is the number of integers of the form:

\[ \frac{a^4+b^4}{625}? \]
 
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lfdahl said:
Let $a, b \le 2015$ be positive integers. What is the number of integers of the form:

\[ \frac{a^4+b^4}{625}? \]

It suffices that a and b are multiples of 5 between 1 and 2015. 2015/5 = 403, hence the desired number is 403$^2$ = 162409.
 
Greg1313 is using the fact that 625= 5^4.
 
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greg1313 said:
It suffices that a and b are multiples of 5 between 1 and 2015. 2015/5 = 403, hence the desired number is 403$^2$ = 162409.

Thankyou, greg1313, for your answer.

Your statement, that $a$ and $b$ are multiples of 5 is true, - why?
 
lfdahl said:
Thankyou, greg1313, for your answer.

Your statement, that $a$ and $b$ are multiples of 5 is true, - why?

[sp]5$^4$ = 625[/sp]
 
greg1313 said:
[sp]5$^4$ = 625[/sp]

Hi, again, greg1313:

Your argument is insufficient. Maybe there exist $a$ and $b$ such, that:

\[a \not\equiv 0\: \: \wedge b\not\equiv 0 \: \: (mod \: \: 5) \\\\ and \\\\\frac{a^4+b^4}{5^4}\in \mathbb{N}\]

You need to prove, why we cannot choose $a$ and $b$ in this way ...
 
lfdahl said:
Hi, again, greg1313:

Your argument is insufficient. Maybe there exist $a$ and $b$ such, that:

\[a \not\equiv 0\: \: \wedge b\not\equiv 0 \: \: (mod \: \: 5) \\\\ and \\\\\frac{a^4+b^4}{5^4}\in \mathbb{N}\]

You need to prove, why we cannot choose $a$ and $b$ in this way ...

:o

Yes, I'm afraid I must agree. However, by Fermat's little theorem,

$$n^4\equiv1\pmod5$$

if $n$ is not divisible by $5$, and $0$ otherwise. Hence,

$$a^4+b^4\equiv0,1,2\pmod5$$

with $0$ occurring iff $a$ and $b$ are both divisible by $5$.
It follows that $a^4$ and $b^4$ must both be divisible by $5$
and since $5^4=625,\,a^4+b^4$ is divisible by $625$ iff $a$
and $b$ are divisible by $5$.

Thank you for your assistance. :)
 
Well done! Thankyou, greg1313!
 

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